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PaperclipPerfector  6mo ago (text post)   2444 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for October 4, 2024

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The new joker is so bad that both critics and audience score at rotten tomatoes agree at 33% . In a way I am impressed how they achieved that with the talent and budget that they had. It is not exactly culture war because in culture war usually there is sizeable gap between the two score.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/joker_folie_a_deux

I still don't understand why the first one achieved the acclaim it did, although that might have been primarily the result of the expectations I had going into it than the film itself.

When I heard that it had won the Golden Lion and was being praised as this incisive portrayal of mental illness, I was anticipating a sensitive, intelligent art film. What I actually got was an overwrought early-2000s psychological thriller, which clumsily attempted to tie in Arthur Fleck's origin story with Batman's (to the detriment of both) and featured a completely superfluous pseudo-romantic subplot for no good reason. The supposedly realistic portrayal of mental illness bore about as much relationship to the genuine article as Norman Bates in Psycho.

The only really positive things I can say about it are a) Joaquin Phoenix conjured a genuinely impressive performance out of a decidedly underwritten character, the most powerful portrayal of the character since Heath Ledger's; b) the score and cinematography were decent, if unremarkable; and c) I liked that they made no attempt to sanitise the violence in the film, and instead endeavoured to milk it for all the horror it was worth. The latter choice lent the film a gritty integrity which would have been sorely lacking without.

Joaquin Phoenix conjured a genuinely impressive performance

This is why I liked the movie. The guy can act. I've loved him in everything he has done.

"Her" was a masterpiece.

And I even liked him in "Napoleon", even though the movie itself was ahistorical garbage.

Napoleon is pretty great if you consider it less as a serious biopic on the life of Napoleon and more as an adaptation of a British political cartoon circa 1812.

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