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Small-Scale Question Sunday for October 20, 2024

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A few weeks ago, there was a thread asking "what are some things you were wrong about?" or "what are some things you changed your mind on?" To keep myself honest, I want to add a belated example.

Two years ago, I posted this:

Go to the funeral of an 88-year-old person. Sure, people may be a little sad, but the atmosphere won't be significantly different from a golden anniversary.

Then go to the funeral of an 8-year-old person. People will be distraught. They will be tearing their hair out, wailing and gnashing their teeth. Likewise at the funeral of an 18-year-old or a 28-year-old.

In August, I buried my grandfather who was in his nineties. While I stand by my assertion that the funerals of the very young are far more distressing than the funerals of the very old (and I speak from experience, having attended a funeral of a baby who died at a few weeks), it was wrong of me to say that the atmosphere at the funerals of very old people isn't "significantly different from a golden anniversary". All of my grandfather's children were very upset, several of his daughters outright sobbing. I was never particularly close with my grandfather, but even I was more upset than I expected to be.

This seems counterintuitive. When an 8 year old dies, the grief is extraordinarily concentrated. Nothing compares to the loss of a child, but beyond the parents, living (and cognitively sound) grandparents, and to some extent close siblings of the parents, grieving is often limited. Even child siblings of the deceased (say a 4 year old sister and 6 year old brother) often don’t grieve in the same way as adults.

When an 85 year old dies, their funeral is often, perhaps even mostly, attended by people who’ve known them their entire lives, from people they grew up with whose attention now turns to their own final years and the memories of youth to children who have known them for 50+ years. Someone who was always there is now no longer there.

A child’s funeral (excepting the close relations above) is deeply sad because of the great tragedy of a life not lived. But that’s a tragedy in a general sense. The funeral of someone old is deeply sad on a much more personal, immediate level.