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Friday Fun Thread for December 6, 2024

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I'm starting to think factorio space age suffers from the same gamey mechanics problems that make modded Minecraft unappealing for me.
Everything goes quadratic, everything before a particular weird meta becomes instantly obsolete the second you hit an arbitrary point on a tech beeline.

Like the correct way to make Legendary Concrete is a rube Goldberg system of turning stone into basic furnaces and recycling them back into stone with quality modules and filtering. Then taking all the non-legendary concrete, painting stripes on it, then erasing the stripes in an infinite loop to farm a 1% drop rate of the highest tier concrete. It's a game mechanic totally disconnected from both reality and the internal rules established at the start of the game.

The same sort of thing turned me off Minecraft too. You get invited to a group server and play for a bit, and then someone goes:

"you're mining?? in Minecraft?! You utter fool! You complete moron! The correct meta is to use your first quadlebonic extractor to make a fairy farm, then grind the faries into ruby dust to be catalyzed with magic tomes from Beecraft (obviously automated with the bibliotek autocasting lectern), producing infinite materials on demand from Greg's Quantum Replicator! Didn't you read the pinned reddit link on the modpack discord?!

I don't know, it just ends up seeming so arbitrary that there's no real joy in thinking your way through it, like one of the old point and click adventure games with the nonsense puzzles.

Maybe I'm just a stick in the mud, but this is the reason I always preferred the vanilla experience in games. It's like all the mods are just cheat mode but with an extra long and frustrating to type console command. And space age feels like a mod.

everything before a particular weird meta becomes instantly obsolete the second you hit an arbitrary point on a tech beeline.

And ? Even if you know the meta it takes effort to put it into practice. And what use is 'meta' in a non-competitive game ?

erasing the stripes in an infinite loop to farm a 1% drop rate of the highest tier concrete

You can't erase the stripes. Yeah, you get a free 10% extra quality boost by being able to turn it into strips, which makes concrete easier to boost in quality than other stuff.

But even there, what is the point of of 'correct' ? With infinite energy, not much limited space.., it's much easier to just slap down so-so designs than to spend 8 hours squeezing 10% more efficiency out of an existing ones..

PVP Factorio could be pretty interesting, afaik,basically no one ever played it and it was never balanced for it, however the 2d map doesn't seem conducive to it, and Space Age with the silly spaceships that can't even come close to each other is definitely even less suited for it.