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Trigger warning - this is related to pornographic material
Lily Philips is an onlyfans model who slept with 100 guys in a single day. She is from the UK and does not have the background of a typical pornstar from the looks of it. Popular Youtube video maker Joshua Pieters made a documentary around it with her in it where at one point she just cracks where she gets a hint of what she just did, in trying to sleep with more guys than most friend circles do in a few lifetimes all for the sake of being edgy.
The clip has gained traction and I feel bad about the girl. Some Christian women are asking for her to be forgiven and taken back under gods grace whilst the Tate Brothers asked their followers to go undercover in her gangbang and literally preach the gospel to a cum infested e celeb. Hell this is the first time I have seen either of them show regret for having ran an onlyfans studio.
Lily and her friends have done similar things before but I cannot find any of it since any mention of her name brings up thousands of links about what she did this week. How do you even describe what she did given that she wants to do a 1000 in a day despite breaking down on camera? The cherry on this cake is that she can get married to a fairly normal guy tomorrow because Riley Reid, another adult entertainer did this too.
edit - removed a question about religiosity, since I think it came off in bad faith which is not my intent at all as a religous person
Fairly high status men marry whores all the time. Nancy Reagan, Miranda Kerr, Meghan Markle. Even Melania was an Eastern European model in NYC in the late ‘90s lol, and that was a pretty sordid business. Men say they care, and in a vacuum they do, but in real life I think less than they’re willing to admit.
How many of them were central examples of whores? How many of them have acknowledged that they regularly had had sex with people that weren't their romantic partners for money?
There were enough rumors about all of them in society circles that the men in question (and their friends) presumably knew exactly what the record was.
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