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Wellness Wednesday for October 19, 2022

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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I don't know how to fix my life

Information about me:

Later 20

I'm in process of getting political asylum (USA not interview yet)

No college education or skills

Working in a menial job (I have a work permit) without possibly advancement

Zero true friends or romantic partner

I trying to find a floor employment. Sadly I can't join the military because I don't a green card and I getting older with no hope of obtaining one in 5 years. My second idea was try to join the merchant marine

But my immigration status don't let me. I have zero idea how collage work here and I'm poor and my support network is unsympathetic.

I just want to find where I can meet people with the same interests as me and do something with my life.

Sorry for the bad English and the pity party.

Suggestions:

A) Go to church. This is like my number one suggestion for half your problems, and particularly for being a semi-aimless 20-something. Pick one you like, but any church really that's close to you and has good attendance. Babtists to Quakers to Catholics to Jehovah's Witnesses to Muslims; nothing else will deliver on helping you on more fronts than becoming part of a religious community. Piety is a qualifying-skill you can demonstrate relatively easily (provided you don't pick a religion with really stupid opinions/rules, idk I could fake my way through Mormonism), and that's all you need along with being a generally nice friendly guy to have people like you at church.

Stop by and talk to the Pastor/Priest/Whatever and talk about getting involved and learning more; after you've attended services and bible studies and other events for a couple months start to share your story and people will be falling over themselves to help you, particularly in ways that also help them. Tons of rich people I know love to hire young down-on-their-luck coreligionists to help them out with around-the-house nonsense, yardwork or home maintenance or moving or shit like that and pay cash. There's also likely to be small business owners in the congregation who would love to hire a fellow parishioner, viewing them as more trustworthy both because of their faith and because they would face social opprobrium for stealing from someone else in the same church. And when you're applying for asylum, a letter from your pastor about how morally upstanding and involved you are in the community, along with a big ol' set of signatures from other church members, goes a long way.

It's also historically recommended as a great place to meet women, but don't fall into the autistic transactional view where you go to three choir practices and wonder where your fucking hot trad wife is already. You have to genuinely get involved and be involved before that's going to help you much.

B) Go to community college. Right now, today, go call your nearest community college and ask to speak to someone who can help you get started. It's so cheap as to be practical even if you aren't applying them towards a degree, if you do go to a non-elite university later you can quite likely translate at least some of the credits, it will help you get back into an academic mindset if you do go back to university, you will meet other people and have some structure to your life. Also a great place to meet women. Courses in anything will be good, courses on offer can be in anything from english to mechanics work, which can help you with a floor job. If at all practical for you I recommend:

C) Become an appliance repairman. If you're looking for a job with relatively low barriers to entry, decent pay, can be done on the side or part time if you move on to something else later, can be self-employed, and fairly recession proof, this is it. I manage a bunch of older rentals, I can't find anyone who does repairs on refrigerators/washing machines/dishwashers/stoves etc. When I can find someone, it is weeks until they can show up, and they want $150 to show up before we even see if a repair is possible, then $100+ an hour to fix it plus parts. And on top of that, most of these fuckers are ancient! Give it five years and another Corona variant, there won't be any of them left!

For most appliances, a $200 Harbor Freight toolset plus a $100 worth of odds and ends will get you through a majority of jobs. You can probably find training classes at your local community college. Appliance repair is an inferior good, demand goes up when the economy is bad because when the economy is good you'd just buy a new fridge but when inflation makes the fridge $4,000 and supply chain issues mean you won't get it for six months, you try to fix the old fridge. Once you get good at it, you can keep it up as a side hustle even if you get another "real" job or go to school (maybe just for your fellow parishioners at the church you joined? Word of mouth for this kind of thing can be huge! Lots of hustling tradesmen I know really only do friends-of-friends jobs and can't get the phone to stop ringing!).

Trolling?

I'm skeptical that someone with poor English really enjoys reading slatestarcodex and posting on the Motte in their free time. Nothing to do with your station in life, its the English that is a red flag.


Edit: actual advice, as a non American who didn't pull himself up by the bootstraps in America. So that everything I say with a grain of salt. But I do have a lot of relatives living in the US and Canada so I have what I think is a decent second hand idea about immigrating and starting a life in the US.

If you are on the process of getting Asylum, that is actually quite a big hurdle done with. Because whatever situation you are in now, it's better than that situation + having the sword of deportation hanging over your head. At least you can be poor, In America.

To be honest, its going to be quite difficult for you to "get your life together" on a menial job. The only option that satisfies all your constraints are that you become so good at your menial job that you get promoted to a manager or sorts, but you say that is not likely. Perhaps switch to a menial job where that is likely? Managing a fast food restaurant is the first one that comes to mind. (I'm aware this is easier said than done on a work visa)


Can you share more details on where you are from? What limitations your work permit has, etc.

Idk, it seems intuitively true to me that reading it or understanding it and being able to reproduce it are vastly different skills. In other languages I can understand more than I can reply; and even in English I can read Hemingway and understand how beautiful the writing is without being able to reproduce the same style in a new topic beyond the level of a 12th grade AP English assignment.

Though I guess maybe this is just a more esoteric troll than I am used to.

FWIW some non native speakers can understand and read and sometimes even write English perfectly without being able to speak it well. My master's degree, which I did somewhere in Europe, was in English and got a lot of international students and I've been surprised by this phenomenon a couple of times.

I remember meeting a Ukrainian guy in my program who really struggled having even a basic conversation in English when I first met him, the pronunciation and the grammar were absolutely atrocious, I figured he was going to fail the courses and wondered how he had been allowed in with such poor English. When I was trying to help him with some stuff we communicated a bit via email and to my surprise his emails were written in flawless English. He never struggled writing papers in English and got his degree without any problems (and by the end of it his conversational English was much much better).

Another example from this time was an Indian guy who I could speak with in English without any problems, but he kept making weird grammatical mistakes, both in speaking and in writing. Despite his seeming lack of English skills, he could understand complicated English in an academic context without any problems. There were some issues with poor grammar when writing papers, but again, he got his degree without too much problems.

I been a lurker for years (a little before the first exodus)

I think reading English is different than writing it. I can understand passive things like reading and hearing it, but knowing how to build a sentence or how to pronounce a word, are things I have problem doing. I didn't learn English in a formal setting like a school but mostly in the internet and living in Florida.

Your English is actually quite decent, there are many native speakers who write worse than you. Some of them significantly worse. You could 100% pass for a native speaker online if you didn't mention that you're not.