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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022

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inclusion in sports

In my opinion no human, no matter their genitals or gender identity, should on these grounds be excluded from the open/mens category.

But demanding womens category be opened up to biological men, while claimining it is "exclusionary" to refuse to do so, is like calling discrimation that a person whose age-sex is 25 years, but who claims their age-gender is 14 years, isn't allowed to compete in a U15 tournament.

In my opinion no human, no matter their genitals or gender identity, should on these grounds be excluded from the open/mens category.

Even if they're taking testosterone supplements?

Can natal men also take testosterone supplements and participate in the open/mens' league?

We should just get rid of the women category in sports. Let’s them compete at making the most beautiful, smart, compassionate children instead.

But demanding womens category be opened up to biological men, while claimining it is "exclusionary" to refuse to do so, is like calling discrimation that a 25 year old agefluid person isn't allowed to compete in a U15 tournament.

Similarly, claiming it is discriminatory to reward athletes in the open men's tournament better than athletes in the restricted women's category is like calling it discrimination that a 14-year old doesn't get the same rewards for winning a U15 tournament that a 25-year old gets for winning the open.

More or less.

I find banning the performance-enhancing drug testosterone from the women’s group to be perfectly reasonable; the linked polls suggest I’m not alone, as it’s the most popular restriction across party. This is a decent barometer for the level of discomfort Americans feel regarding trans inclusion.

It’s also a good example of policy debate that isn’t tied to “grooming.”

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