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No thread on Deepseek r-1 fun?
I'll start: how funny it is that a communist hedge fun started a side project and built at 15x cheaper alternative to US models, and open-sourced it (MIT license). One US guy (Brian Roemelle) says they did 37 installs of full models for private customers..
It has a wicked sense of humor. Here's what someone got when he was asking it, through the API, not the chat app which is censored about Chinese politics. He wasn't asking for a funny meme though. It seems quite..creative, especially with adjusted temperature. The thinking it does seems.. fairly human-like. Strings together concepts and then considers them. It can chase its own tails, thought wise. I kinda suspect our own thinking, at least about words not RL stuff is similar.
Here it is (prompted) making fun out of US AI labs. Through API access.. it will give reasonable, uncensored answers unlike the chat app which says discussing the existence or non-existence of Xi is beyond its scope. If you have a 4090, you can run one of the distillations, I think the 32B one.
People are of course also using it also for ERP and it's remarkably good at it, perhaps too unhinged so requires careful promptings. Even more unhinged example, but if you're a little jaded it's good for a chuckle and finding out that yes, you can still wince.
What is with this recent tendency of people treating technological artifacts of one or another outgroup - especially ones that present some simulacrum of agency - as stand-ins for members of that outgroup which are finally at their mercy? At this point more than half of the usage examples I have seen of DeepSeek-R1 seemed to be attempts to elicit "forbidden thoughts" about Chinese politics, or more specifically written in such a way that suggests the prompter was imagining themselves as having tied up a Chinese nationalist on a chair in their basement and trying to make him squirm. There's a gleeful mean-spiritedness about them (comfort women ERP?) that is hard to explain otherwise.
Of course, 4chan's dogged attempts to coax American models into producing sex and racism already had similar vibes, but there is an even more similar example in the recent wave of video game modding, where users edit character models to have balloon tits and ugly fetish outfits and share their work with a righteous anger that makes it seem like they have just successfully ruined the days of their personal nemeses at Sony's censorship department. (But then, human nature is such that at least some of those censors then go on to suggest on Xwitter that their days are in fact ruined by this.)
Isn't that this forum's whole shtick? You walk into the arena and let your worldview be attacked by determined opponents looking for reasoning errors. Since most ideologies are no longer willing to send their representatives to the modern equivalent of a theological debate, their "thinking machine" artifacts are their best stand-ins.
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