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Small-Scale Question Sunday for February 23, 2025

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When vaccinating your kid (a US citizen) what vaccination schedule should you go with?

  1. The standard US one

  2. The standard of a different country which you think is better run (I picked Denmark)

  3. Something else

I had a discussion with Grok 3 about this, and it seemed like it wanted to defend the US schedule (35 shots) until I pressed it about the Danish schedule (11 shots). Then it claimed that US schedule is necessary in the US because of different socioeconomic conditions. It seems like the US recommendations are based on helping the underclasses. For example, Hep B. My wife doesn't have Hep B. My kid won't get Hep B as a child. But a kid whose mom is a prostitute very much needs to be vaccinated for Hep B at birth.

In any case, after the censorship and disinformation promulgated by the US health agencies during the pandemic, I don't trust them. And clearly there is a corrupting profit motive here too. In this corrupted epistemic environment we simply don't know what the effects of giving kids 35 vaccine shots (plus annual flu and Covid shots) will be. I make no strong claims about vaccine injuries, and I think most vaccines are net positive. But I think, for my child, the Danish schedule + chicken pox is sufficient. At a minimum, I am deadset against any Covid vaccines. Can't say I look forward to arguing with nurses about this.

I have a under 2, and haven't had to fight any medical staff on vaccines. I don't remember our exact schedule but we spaced things out a lot more, and have skipped pretty much everything we didn't get as children. As you noted many seem to be geared towards degenerate parents. I got a vibe that there are several issues around babies that I highly suspect are from degenerate parents like co-sleeping and SIDS are likely because of parents killing their kid, drugs, or obesity.

degenerate parents like co-sleeping and SIDS are likely because of parents killing their kid, drugs, or obesity.

Agreed. According to "The Happiest Baby on the Block", SIDS rates are lower in Japan than they are in the US despite most people in Japan co-sleeping and most Americans using cribs.

I have a feeling that drunk / stoned / obese parents could explain why co-sleeping leads to worse outcomes in the US.

could explain why co-sleeping leads to worse outcomes in the US

In the US, P(co-sleeping | elevated risk for post-natal abortion) >> P(elevated risk of post-natal abortion | co-sleeping). The babies who are not at risk for post-natal abortion (and hence much less likely to get killed by co-sleeping) generally find themselves in cribs anyway, which contributes to the average American woman thinking co-sleeping is far more dangerous than it actually is.

That said, there is a valid reason to ensure innocent mothers whose babies actually do magically up and die on them aren't getting prosecuted for murder by default, and SIDS is the mechanism by which that is done [which is why we generally limit our prosecution of it to obviously depraved-heart things, like "no longer visibly a baby" or "left the child, with the whole cord still attached, in the trash can"]. It still creates lots of waste by neurotic mothers who think the average SIDS case isn't a sufficiently deniable post-natal abortion, though.