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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 7, 2025

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literally there is NOTHING more important than a country deciding for itself who to let in and who to expel

Citation needed. I mean, I would agree that it is very important, but vast swathes of the Western populace would not.

Agreed. I would argue that the most important thing about a society are its constraints on applying force. The rules about that are different in a feudal society or the USSR or the contemporary US, and they tell you a lot about what the society is like.

Historically, the bad thing about getting invaded is not that you have a bunch of people speaking in funny accents in the streets, but that the invaders would claim a monopoly on violence to the detriment of whomever previously had such powers.

Some illegals in the US might do a bit of gang violence, but they do not control the US though it. The entity which controls the US (ultimately through violence) is the US government. The next two relevant political entities engaging in violence -- very much also-rans compared to the US government -- would be BLM and J6.

Historically, the bad thing about getting invaded is not that you have a bunch of people speaking in funny accents in the streets, but that the invaders would claim a monopoly on violence to the detriment of whomever previously had such powers.

I would say that the really bad part of being invaded is that you are dispossessed and ruled by people who at best aren’t like you (and therefore inherently make your country less hospitable to you in the course of improving their own quality of life) and at worst despise and actively persecute you.

Bloodshed is very bad, obviously, but if the invaders killed five percent of the population and then settled down to rule it in precisely the manner that the original inhabitants would like best, I don’t think the bad blood would last. Whereas a bloodless coup that made the natives feel like strangers and inferiors in their own country is resented in perpetuity.

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