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Wellness Wednesday for May 14, 2025

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We homeschool our kid but this might be fraying our nerves too much.

The public schools here are generally terrible, and the private schools are either religious or hippie-woo garbage that I don't want to waste time at.

There are a handful of Immersion schools, however. Spanish, Japanese and Chinese.

We're white but my thinking is

  1. Chinese Immersion School will be full of kids of more upwardly mobile Chinese immigrants
  2. Their children will be better behaved and not a toxic/criminal influence on my kids, the way median white kids in my community would be
  3. Their children will be smarter and be a positive influence on my kids
  4. The school will probably have better academics and not that much on the liberal arts/woo shit because of the Chinese parents
  5. The rest of the white kids there are sent there because their parents all know this too
  6. To the extent that learning foreign languages is useful, Chinese is probably the least useless one out of the rest of those

Yes this is racist. But also... accurate? Thoughts?

Just on the language piece, Spanish is absolutely and infinitely more useful in the US. Wikipedia says that in the US it’s something like 42 million vs 3.5 million and the Spanish one feels like maybe even an underestimate. I’m not saying Chinese is useless - personally I’d view it as #2 most useful second language? But a 10-fold difference increase in speaking opportunities is pretty stark. Frankly everything after that falls off pretty quickly in usefulness, possibly with the exception of French, where the point of learning is more for its own sake rather than an actual expected ROI of any kind. (They say that a second language eventually can help mental development, after a brief confusion period depending on the age, so language of any kind might still be a mild net benefit even without a lasting return, but the significance of this is debated.)

You may have a point about the Chinese school. It’s not all sunshine and roses though, as noted below, but I’d say directionally it sounds like an idea worth exploring for sure.

Just on the language piece, Spanish is absolutely and infinitely more useful in the US.

I'm okay at Spanish and haven't found it very useful. Whereas I feel like I'm somewhat blind to one of the largest cultural and geopolitical transformations of our time by not being able to understand Chinese.

Speaking spanish is the only other language as an American that doesn't correspond with an increase in income, though (I believe this fact is from a freakonomics podcast ten years ago).

Surely learning Georgian is unlikely to increase your earning power meaningfully, so the claim must be about correlation, not causation. Most Americans who speak Spanish are Latinos, and Latinos tend to make below-average incomes. Most people who speak other languages are either positively selected immigrants, or natives who were smart and conscientious enough to learn another language as adults. So they tend to make more.