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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 21, 2022

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Good writeup.

pro-immigrant women don't really seem to act on such impulses, they wouldn't run from home to the arms of the supposed outsiders/newcomers.

You'd expect this to be the case given the dynamic at the start - they have to earn it.

To falsify, you'd check to see how many historical examples there are of women having political power and not using it to start a worldwide battle royale for themselves. I am not aware of this ever happening, but women have never had political power in a civilization I know about. There are quite a few examples of men taking women through conquest, but I haven't seen any texts that explore the dynamic between the women and their new tribe. Historically did the single ladies put up lot of meaningful resistance during a skirmish? Was it typical that they would switch sides as soon as an obvious victor becomes apparent? And if they were in a situation that seemed not so good, are there examples of women of a tribe undermining their own to help a conquest along?

I wouldn't even know where to start researching this stuff.

The myth you're looking for is the Sabine women at the foundation of Rome.

To falsify, you'd check to see how many historical examples there are of women having political power and not using it to start a worldwide battle royale for themselves. I am not aware of this ever happening, but women have never had political power in a civilization I know about.

I know that back in the 1860's there was a random Swiss dude, Johann Jakob Bachofen, who did all sorts of theorizing about matriarchal societies, and may have claimed to be doing some anthropology...but I haven't read his stuff directly. Engels' work on the family references it a few times. As such I'd tread carefully, 19th-century Germans were on some weird shit.

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