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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 19, 2025

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Scott briefly observes, "The only thing about COVID nobody talks about anymore is the 1.2 million deaths.

That’s 1.2 million American deaths. Globally it’s officially 7 million, unofficially 20 - 30 million. But 1.2 million American deaths is still a lot. It’s more than Vietnam plus 9/11 plus every mass shooting combined - in fact, more than ten times all those things combined. It was the single highest-fatality event in American history, beating the previous record-holder - the US Civil War - by over 50%. All these lives seem to have fallen into oblivion too quietly to be heard over the noise of Lab Leak Debate #35960381.

Maybe it’s because they were mostly old people? Old people have already lived a long life, nobody can get too surprised about them dying. But although only a small fraction of COVID deaths were young people, a small fraction of a large number can still be large: the pandemic killed 250,000 <65-year-old Americans, wiping out enough non-seniors to populate Salt Lake City. More military-age young men died in COVID than in Iraq/Afghanistan. Even the old people were somebody’s spouse or parent or grandparent; many should have had a good 5 - 10 years left.

Usually I’m the one arguing that we have to do cost-benefit analysis, that it’s impractical and incoherent to value every life at infinity billion dollars. And indeed, most lockdown-type measures look marginal on a purely economic analysis, and utterly fail one that includes hedonic costs. Rejecting some safety measures even though they saved lives was probably the right call. Still, I didn’t want to win this hard. People are saying things like “COVID taught us that scientists will always exaggerate how bad things will be.” I think if we’d known at the beginning of COVID that it would kill 1.2 million Americans, people would have thought that whatever warnings they were getting, or panicky responses were being proposed, were - if anything - understated.1

A better comparison for 1.2 million Americans dying would be the Spanish Flu: An estimated 675,000 Americans died, while the total population was estimated to be round 106,000,000. (The 2020 estimated population was around 331,500,000.)

One problem I have with the online debates about covid policy is there's no clear counterfactual: 2021 deaths were higher than 2020 deaths, which is bad for arguments that containment policies were only protecting the most vulnerable at the expense of the general population, because the most vulnerable had disproportionately died in 2020 and management had improved. It's possible that a different set of policies would have resulted in disproportionately more QALYs lost by lower-risk demographics, due to the non-linear dynamics of disease transmission (don't forget rates of mutation). I don't really care to defend any policy, since there were a lot of avoidable mistakes, but I think the criticism should be more specific and measured.

(Edit: Scott's Lockdown Effectiveness: Much More Than You Wanted To Know, published July 1, 2021 - anyone know if there's been much change in the understanding of NPI effectiveness?)

When has policy ever been about the numbers ? It's about sex appeal.

Utilitarians can be surprisingly blind at times. Covid wasn't sexy. No spectacle, no myth building, no clear narrative. Deaths were slow, honorable & blameless. Ofc people don't care in proportion to the numbers.

No movie or even harrowing video to speak of. Hell, there wasn't even an iconic photo. Statistically, I know the Bengal famine killed a lot of people. But viscerally, my emotions are tied to the photos of piled up bodies, literally (not figuratively) looming vultures and 1st hand stories of families prostituting themselves for food. There is a villain (Churchill). There is intrigue ( what if they hadn't diverted reserves to Australia). There is a story.

Plane crashes are sexier than car accidents, which causes disproportional worry. Tuberculosis, a 'CURABLE DISEASE' !! kills 1.25 million every year. No one cares. Malaria kills 600k every year. Yet, the most visceral image of it is Bill Gates releasing non-viral mosquitoes to a room of white people. Covid is no exception.

The Ukraine war went from being sexy urban warfare 'Hordes of migrants, tanks built up in front of Kyiv, hot women crying and destroyed cities' to more conventional unsexy warfare in the woods. No one cares anymore. Israel and Palestine keep producing visceral imagery at an unheard-of rate, and it stays sexy.

Tragedy has pretty privilege. It's all that matters.

Tuberculosis, a 'CURABLE DISEASE' !! kills 1.25 million every year.

This surprised me a bit: worldwide those deaths are from about 10M new cases every year, so you've got better than 10% odds of dying if you're infected ... but in the USA we still have 500-600 deaths from about 10K new cases every year, so you've still got better than 5% odds of dying if you're infected! Has antibiotic-resistant TB gotten that bad? Do people let TB infections get bad enough to be untreatable before seeking treatment?

It looks like most of our progress against TB predated the cure, too. 10K/340M cases per year is about 3/100K for the US, vs 10M/8B = 125/100K for the world as a whole, so at least we've had incredible success at making TB an avoidable disease... In 1900 the US death rate was nearly 200/100K, from God only knows what infection rate, but it steadily dropped to a fraction of that even before streptomycin was invented ... apparently mostly from better living conditions (less overcrowding and more ventilation, better quarantine of infected patients, less malnutrition making people vulnerable)?

Has antibiotic-resistant TB gotten that bad? Do people let TB infections get bad enough to be untreatable before seeking treatment?

These statistics from 2023 indicate that it's mostly among immigrants/non-native born people in the USA. Included with that are the risk factors associated with poverty, homelessness, and unhealthy behaviour. Plus they're including places like Guam and Micronesia, which you'd expect to have much worse outcomes anyway:

As in past years, four U.S. states combined reported half of all U.S. TB cases in 2023: California, Texas, New York (including New York City), and Florida.

...Consistent with previous years, origin of birth was a key risk factor for TB disease in 2023. Most TB cases (75.8%) in 2023 occurred among non-U.S.–born persons

...In the United States, TB disease disproportionately impacts persons who identify as members of racial or ethnic minority groups. In 2023, persons identifying as Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander had the highest TB incidence rate (22.6 per 100,000 persons) among all racial/ethnic groups followed by persons identifying as Asian (14.0 per 100,000 persons).

Likewise, the U.S.-Affiliated Pacific Islands continued to report some of the highest incidence rates in the world. The TB incidence rate in 2023 was 503.7 per 100,000 persons in the Republic of the Marshall Islands and 179.4 per 100,000 persons in the Federated States of Micronesia. TB diagnoses during active case finding efforts in the Federated States of Micronesia during 2023 likely contributed to the high incidence rate there, which represents a 300.5% increase compared with 2022 (44.8 per 100,000 persons).

...TB disease in pregnancy poses a substantial risk of morbidity to both the pregnant woman and the fetus if not diagnosed and treated in a timely manner.

Smoking is associated with increased risk of TB disease.

...Living or working in congregate settings, including homeless shelters, is a risk factor for TB because shared airspace can facilitate TB exposure and transmission.

...For other risk factors, 23.4% of TB cases occurred in persons reported to have diabetes and 4.9% occurred in persons with HIV. Among persons with TB who were at least 15 years of age, social risk factors included excess alcohol use (7.9%), noninjecting drug use (7.8%), and residence within a correctional facility (3.6%) at the time of diagnosis.

...The National Vital Statistics System reported 565 TB-related deaths in 2022, the most recent year for which data are available. The TB mortality rate was 0.2 deaths per 100,000 persons. Using unrounded numbers, this represents a 6.1% decrease in the number of TB-related deaths and 6.5% decrease in the mortality rate compared with 2021.

As regards drug resistance:

...Isoniazid (INH) drug-resistant and multidrug-resistant (MDR) TB disease Organisms resistant to one of the most common anti-TB drugs, isoniazid (INH), cause INH-resistant TB disease. Multidrug-resistant (MDR) TB disease is caused by an organism that is resistant to at least isoniazid and rifampin. In Tables 12–14, INH-resistant and MDR cases are displayed by year and stratified by a patient’s history of previous TB disease.

Starting in 2023, information on drug resistance included results of molecular drug susceptibility testing in addition to growth-based susceptibility testing for isoniazid and rifampin. An isolate was considered resistant to isoniazid or rifampin if either the growth-based test or molecular test detected resistance.

So at a glance it looks like "be immigrant, be poor/in bad circumstances, don't get diagnosed immediately, don't get put on treatment immediately, more likely to contract TB and to die from it". Again, drug-resistant TB seems to be slightly higher amongst non-US born than US natives. And smoking/vaping is the big risk factor.