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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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So, your original statement was that "racism = prejudice + power" is "cultural marxism" because cultural marxism is "the idea that we live in an exploitative system, where people are divided into classes, one designated the oppressor, and the other the oppressed."

Your original question was "what was specifically Marxist about class conflict" and that was the answer.

My claim was that the latter statement was extremely broad, and is held in various forms by many historical and present groups unrelated to marxism.

It's not extremely broad. There just aren't that many groups analyzing social relations through the lens of oppressor and oppressed classes. I'm pretty sure you will have a hard time finding a framework that does so, which is not descended from Marxism.

You'll notice that this doesn't directly mention 'enemy classes' at all.

In plain language, what do you think this means:

We are, in Marx's terms, "an ensemble of social relations" and we live our lives at the core of the intersection of a number of unequal social relations based on hierarchically interrelated structures which, together, define the historical specificity of the capitalist modes of production and reproduction and underlay their observable manifestations.

You already claimed that what I said is extremely broad, even though it's very easy to follow. How would you react if I quoted this instead?

Although it is worth noting they are correct about many things in some ways

Why does the concern about statements being extremely broad, and is held in various forms by many historical and present groups unrelated to marxism, vanish when you happen to agree with them?

Aside from the veneer of "lets all agree" vs "i very disagree", it's the same thing - universalism, progressivism, liberating the oppressed, etc.

False. "I have a dream" and "girl can do what boy can do" allow racism and sexism to go both ways, while "patriarchy" and "racism = prejudice + power" hold only one group can be racist and/or sexist.

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