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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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Yes, that's war. People on both sides die. It's why we use proxies, so that people don't have to die en masse. But the more faith in the proxies falters, the more one side dominates the processes and subverts the systems, the more reason there is to abandon the proxies.

I've said elsewhere we will not have a second Civil War. I stand by that. But we will have violent troubles.

right, and if you manage to convince the US military to do a right-wing coup (not possible itself), it'd be fine. but the point is - you suicide bomb, the state imprisons you and your friends, you don't get special treatment like hitler did or the communists did because nobody in the state wants to protect you, you lose. Nothing is accomplished - being gay was illegal 100 years ago and they still fought for it, a few terrorist threats aren't quite enough to win here. what's the point?

Islamic terrorists haven't convinced any foreign states to perform a pro-Islamic coup, yet nevertheless they have a chilling effect on their detractors, who will often twist themselves into pretzels performing apologetics.

You do not need to overthrow a state. You only ever need to hurt and frighten specific individuals in it to influence the collective entity.

Maybe islamic terrorism only works because those with power's willingness to violently suppress it varies? The US could have conquered afghanistan, or any other ME country, like an old-school colony, if such was desired.

And islamic terrorism is often explicitly state-sponsored, and isn't a useful way to "change the culture" on its own. Islamic terrorism hasn't made the west meaningfully less progressive in a coercive way.

Have they made it less 'progressive'? No, of course not. Have they made the definition of 'progressive' weirdly tolerant of Islamic norms that blatantly should be considered anti-progressive? I'd say undeniably, whether that's talking up the empowering nature of the hijab or overlooking mass child rape.

If Christians had half the tenacity Muslims do when it comes to violent martyrdom, Christianity would be significantly more respected in the west.

Have they made the definition of 'progressive' weirdly tolerant of Islamic norms that blatantly should be considered anti-progressive

This isn't because of terrorism though. It's just a standard progressive thing. Poor minority: must help, they do good things, yay! Irish nationalism good, zimbabwe nationalism good. See the same thing for indigenous people, who aren't doing any terrorism that isn't very progressive! Suicide bombings don't aid that.

I reject the notion it's coincidence that the minorities progressives appease the most are also the minorities that cause the most trouble when not appeased. Native Americans don't get half the simping blacks do, and that's because blacks scare the shit out of progressives. Same with Muslims.

But muslims are ... definitely not the minorities progressives appease the most. Trans, women, etc get more surely.

The top three pandered to minorities are blacks, Muslims, and trannies. The first two have a long and consistent history of violent disagreement with whatever society houses them, which lets them wield disproportionate influence to their benefit. The trannies aren't personally violent, but they don't need to be: they are the system, they don't need to threaten it.

Eunuchs have a long and colorful history the world over of dominating and corrupting states. Unfortunately, their methods aren't reproducible by non-eunuchs.

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