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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022

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OTOH, I almost hit a cyclist when going home today because I didn't see him because all I saw was lights in the darkness.

If the bots manage to get something done about the megawatt floodlights on rich people's cars nowadays, then I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.

My understanding is that it is slightly less about the brightness of the headlights and more about cars getting taller and thus the angle of the headlights isn't quite sufficient to keep them out of your eyes if you drive a car that seats the driver lower to the ground.

Also we don't use Adaptive beam headlights whilst Europe does.

Source is mostly this video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=c2J91UG6Fn8

It's actually safer for the driver of such a car since they get visibility further out, but obviously if everyone does this it just leads to everyone being blinded.

Also we don't use Adaptive beam headlights whilst Europe does.

I'm in the Netherlands. Southkraut is in Germany, it apparently doesn't help.

No surprise: nothing is going to be sensitive and accurate enough for that to ever work well. The manufacturers don't really even have to care, after all, it's not their customers who are blinded, it's the other guys. And it's always going to err on the side of not dimming, since that's what the customer would want - and on the other hand, thank God for that, imagine driving along and your car turns your headlights off all of a sudden because it has somehow decided someone's coming.

This so-called driver assistance technology never works well. I've never seen any work well. Even the self-canceling turn signals only ever self-cancel when you don't want them to. But that's another rant for another time.

Aye, I thought I was the only one who's bothered by the proliferation of ever-brighter headlights.