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Friday Fun Thread for June 20, 2025

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So I got a Switch 2. Because I'll always be a Nintendo kid at heart.

My old Switch was dying. The fan in it was making a god awful racket. So I hadn't turned it on the last few months because I planned on just transferring everything to a Switch 2 anyways. I may replace the fan for fun and practice and sell it now that I'm not concerned about losing data.

First order of business was finally finishing the playthrough of Final Fantasy XII that had about 3 hours left to it. I fucking love this game. Favorite Final Fantasy by a country mile, and the only one I still fire up from time to time. Personally I preferred the original's license board over Zodiac Age's job system, but it is what it is. I generally always prefer things the way I first experienced them.

The game was still as obviously flawed as it was when I first played it in 2006. The first half of the game is way stronger than the back half. The entire plot seems to revolve around chasing McGuffin after McGuffin to no consequence what so ever. Every time you finally get a McGuffin, some cutscenes halfway across the world with characters you never meet happen which move the plot along independent of anything you did. That said, I still love the real time combat and gambit system, the localization is top notch and the accents they gave all the groups really heighten the expert world building that went into Ivalice. Ultimately it's a game that is a work of art despite itself.

Don't mind me, just jumping off of you since you mentioned FFs and favorites and I had a pre-prepared ranking. Ahem. The FF series:

1 - one of a very rare few games where I will use the phrase "good for its time" seriously. A bit slow, rough around the edges, probably not a good starter for non JRPG folks. Raised to middle of the pack by stinkers at the bottom.
2 - a very deeply flawed game with few redeeming factors. A stinker at the bottom.
3 - a bit fresh, a bit new, a bit flawed. Eh. Middle?
4 - mostly good, a little great, a couple sticking points. High middle.
5 - yeah, good shit! Top of the middle or bottom of the top.
6 - chef kiss emoji.
7 - chef kiss emoji.
8 - some real question mark choices push it down from where it could've been.
9 - chef kiss emoji.
10 - chef kiss emoji.
11 - N/A, go home and play a single player game.
12 - Fuck you, Vaan. Do not pass Rabanastre, do not Collect Fran and Balthier. To the bottom with you.
13 - Just really weak. (Mostly) nothing to HATE, but so little to love that it can't overcome the flaws at all. Way low.
14 - N/A, pls stop putting MMOs in the numbers kthx.
15 - terrible combat, fun road trip. Low you go!
16 - a spark of greatness, wasted on samey filler and bad overall plot pacing and shaping. Get on down to low tier.
Ranked: 11/14 <<< uncrossable apples and oranges gap <<< 2 < 12 < 13 < 15 < 16 < 8 < 1 < 3 < 4 < 5 < 9 < 10 < 7 < 6

Honestly, though, most of what bothers me about 12 comes from a huge pile of factors almost everybody else considers trivial - they're all just big problems for me and when you stack them all up the experience is incredibly grating.

Where do 10-2, 7-Remake, and 7-Rebirth fall for you?

10-2 has excellent combat. If only I liked the story enough to push it higher... probably lands somewhere in high-mid. 7-remake was pretty fun at first, but eventually I got really frustrated with the way ATB fills for the active vs passive characters and the need to constantly ping-pong control around. Felt like I could never get a groove going on anybody. And then of course the plot gradually revealed that it's not actually a remake. Put those together, plus my dislike of large open worlds, and I didn't bother playing rebirth.

I agree with some of your criticisms of 7-R. I feel like it's so close to my ideal battle system, if they just made the movesets between ATBs more dynamic and with a higher skill ceiling. I kind of like the ping-pong between characters, as it gives a cinematic feel and some light satisfaction from effective multitasking.

I also kind of hate the storyline. My hope is that when it's all done, they go back and asset-flip a "true remake" because the convoluted alternate dimension ghost stuff is just awful.