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Is he? Cofnas implies that facts will persuade EHC to flip sides, and Auron is saying facts and arguments have failed to do that. Is there an objective debate moderator who can determine if Cofnas is right because evidence wasn't presented; or if Auron is right because the evidence was presented, and ignored?
You're right that Auron does not give an alternative plan to co-opt EHC, but do you have one?
No more Trump, RFK, Hulk Hogan, or prayer breakfasts.
What right-wingers like Auron underappreciate is how vast the chasm is between their version of the right and IRL conservatism. The majority of Trump voters (let alone the 'independents' who have been deciding our recent elections by flip-flopping between Obama, Trump, and Biden) don't think about immigrants, nationalism, or even gays, in the same way they do.
How do the majority of Trump voters and flip-flopping independents think about such things? How do right-wingers like Auron think about them?
Auron MacIntyre may admittedly not be the best example. But, simply put, MacIntyre and those adjacent to the Online Right/Dissident Right see immigration and nationalism through a more blood and soil framework than most Trump voters, who are happy to hang out with their Hispanics friends and actually do see them as real Americans. As for gays, they've adopted a strict "no compromise" policy that I don't think is popular IRL. Lots of talk about "degeneracy" and "subversion", with numerous Jewish references.
In my view, there's no viable political project that can emerge out of this, at least not on a national scale. But maybe that's the point; right-wingers who are sincere white nationalists (or close enough to that ideology) need to build their own small communities and try to insulate themselves and their children as much as possible from America.
It's getting more popular amongst Republicans but I think that's wholly because the gays have either abandoned their movement or refused to Sistah Soulja the trans side.
If they totally surrendered today and treated trans like NAMBLA...maybe Republicans would give up and rebound. But that's impossible (the best they can manage is just silence) so who knows when the backlash will bottom out?
Wow, that’s… massive. Is it just party coalitions reshuffling? But such a massive drop in such a short amount of time makes me want to assume the null hypothesis, measurement error.
The machine that produced the previous consensus on Gay Rights has largely broken down. At the same time, the movement and its core supporters went all-in on trans, and by my lights have pretty clearly suffered a catastrophic defeat.
But I know moderates who strongly oppose a lot of the trans stuff but are firmly in support of gay marriage. Have people with this viewpoint just flipped away from identifying as Republican en masse?
Looking at the Gallup data, independents don’t show much of a change. My supposition is that a lot of moderate Republicans have left the party since 2020, leaving more firm conservatives. I’m not convinced this change is due to a massive number of people changing their minds.
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