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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 14, 2025

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That's not something that happens in America.

I'm admittedly more familiar with Europe, but I'm pretty sure there were some weird stories in the US as well. Wasn't there some gang that took over some apartment complex, or something?

Poverty fetish again.

So in the other comment you criticized conservatism for being the ideology of the uneducated. Guilty as charged, I am an uneducated moron. But do you maybe see why ideologies of the educated "elite human capital" aren't compelling to anyone, when you can't seem to be able to string a sentence together in order to describe your opinion and back it?

I think a society should be able to carry out all the tasks necessary for it's own maintenance without relying on foreign workers. It's not a "poverty fetish" any more than wiping your own ass is. If you can't do it, you're not in good health by definition. If you can but won't, and prefer to hire a servant to do it for you, you're a sociopath.

Your entire idea makes even less sense to me, since from what I recall, in the long term you want to automate away these jobs anyway. So, you import millions of people to form an underclass of low-wage workers with no attachment to your nation or it's culture... how do you expect things to play out, once you take away their jobs?

I think a society should be able to carry out all the tasks necessary for it's own maintenance without relying on foreign workers. It's not a "poverty fetish" any more than wiping your own ass is. If you can't do it, you're not in good health by definition. If you can but won't, and prefer to hire a servant to do it for you, you're a sociopath.

Why is having non-Americans pick crops more like having someone else wipe my own ass than it is like... Having someone else pick my crops? Now, perhaps you are one of those people (and we have some on this board) who think that every man should be a completely autarkic island. If you are such a person, you can stop reading now.

But if you aren't, and you do agree that I don't need to be a psychopath to not want to pick my own crops, and that maybe my crops don't even need to be picked by my blood relatives, why should I insist that the crops must be picked by an American if Americans largely don't want to do this? There are farm jobs, people can go and get them if they like. They suck, though, and Americans, myself included, generally have better paths open to them than farm labor.