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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 21, 2025

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Here in Australia we’ve seen the latest example of ideological purity movements devouring themselves. What I find interesting about this particular case is that, to me, it accurately represents what seems to have happened in a lot of left wing movements over the last 20+ years.

Co-founder and former Queensland state leader of The Greens party, Drew Hutton, has failed in his appeal to his own party to reverse the revocation of his life membership. Hutton helped found the Greens with Bob Brown, both in Queensland (1990) and federally (1991), the initial ideological basis was for creating a party with “a historic mission to try to push the world to a more sustainable footing”. The parties platform that I recall, growing up as an Australian in the 90’s, was for combatting climate change, stopping deforestation, protecting fisheries, reefs and banning live export of cattle and other stock.

But both Bob Brown and Drew Hutton have long since departed from the front lines of the parties political battles. In their place we have seen a succession of leaders that promote environmentalism, but increasingly campaign on social justice issues. A party that (until the recent federal election) were making the majority of their electoral ground in inner city electorates (inner Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane).

Hutton was embroiled in drama from a twitter post (what else could cause so much drama) made over a year ago, which led to him being labelled a trans-phobe and promptly to the revocation of his life membership after he refused demands to delete the post and the comments below it. Today it was announced that the year long appeal process has not landed in his favour, but is in fact keeping with the original revocation. But if he’s espousing hatred and division online while somewhat representing his political party that he cofounded, then surely that’s a just result?

My initial thoughts were along the lines of “grandpa didn’t keep up to date with the terminology and unknowingly crossed the line”, however, after a bit of research it becomes clear that Hutton didn’t even make the hurtful comments, rather that he “provided a platform for others to do so”. Which after further research, revealed that he had publicly questioned his Party in their actions of removing membership from a different member for voicing concerns over a proposed amendment from the NSW Greens to change “pregnant people” from “pregnant women” in an upcoming act.

Interesting. I’ve run out of steam now, it’s a been a long day on site, but I wanted to post this and hear what other thoughts The Motte have - Australian and International.

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Note: reposted to this weeks thread as I foolishly did not check the day of the week.

Hutton was embroiled in drama from a twitter post (what else could cause so much drama) made over a year ago, which led to him being labelled a trans-phobe

What did he say?

Well, nothing really. It sounds insane but it was the fact that he criticised a previous move by the party of booting a female member of parliament for what they perceived as transphobic.

The fuse was lit by a row in Victoria in 2022 over the sacking of state convener Linda Gale for advocating, in an internal discussion paper she wrote three years earlier, that the party revisit its position on gender. In NSW, feminist lawyer Anna Kerr had her membership terminated for what were alleged to be transphobic views.

Mr Hutton criticised both moves as authoritarian and anti-democratic in three posts on his private Facebook page. The Queensland Greens’ constitution and arbitration committee subsequently dismissed a complaint that he had denigrated transgender women but found he provided a platform for others to do so after he refused to delete a number of comments on the page, citing freedom of speech.

There is definitely not a slope, and were there a slope, it definitely would not be slippery.

I'm a social conservative, and the new orthodox faith of the One, True, Catholic Church of Trans Rights is not convincing me to shift on that. All the former gay rights activism that successfully sold the line "if you're not gay, this will have no effect on your life" to the mainstream and the trans activism that piggy-backed on this ("why are those bigoted conservatives so obsessed with bathrooms? no trans person has ever said anything about bathrooms, it's all them!") couldn't maintain the facade. Never mind "bake the cake, bigot", we're now in "um, aren't pregnant people women?/die, heretic! leper outcast unclean!" territory.

Yes, you too can be barred for life from the party you co-founded because you questioned a previous banning for life for not being 200% onboard with "we need this inclusive terminology so trans men and non-binary persons won't feel all oppressed and persecuted when turning up for their pre-natal appointments. Sure, maybe they're only 1% if that of people who turn up to maternity hospitals, but won't the 99% who are women be just overjoyed to make this teeny little change in being referred to not as a mother but a 'pregnant person'? And if they're not thrilled, too bad for them. They better know to keep their mouths shut, the transphobic bigots!"

Believe it or not, I want to be charitable to people who are unhappy with their bodies. I don't want to kick up a fuss about the changes. I'm not even that outraged about bathrooms. But when we're getting to the point of witch-burning someone for just being in the general vicinity of a witch, tell me how this makes society better for us all?

The woke left is generally very tolerant of about anything except opinions. I think at this point they mainly attract people whose kink is to enforce social conformity.

The same people who reported their neighbors for keeping the Sabbath in 1600, or single people who received visitors of the opposite sex in their apartments in 1950. And in time, they will become just as cringe (or perhaps they are already).

As far as SJ is a subculture (which it only vaguely resembles), it is in the sociopath phase. The median leader might or might not be a true believer, but they surely know how to play zero-sum status games very well. At the end of the day, effectively reducing humanities carbon footprint might save the climate, but it will not secure your own status. Stabbing your own allies in the back and giving a speech about principles and painful decisions is much more likely to see you advance, at least until you slip up and use a term which was fine last year or some enemy digs out opinions you unwisely publicized a decade ago.