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PaperclipPerfector  5d ago (text post)   1209 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for August 1, 2025

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In reading some responses to yutes asking why Ozzy was such a big deal, I noticed the answers tended to follow the grug/midwit/genius bell curve.

Black Sabbath effectively invented heavy metal and anyone who denies that is just trying push their own niche pet theory that nobody gives the slightest shit about.

All the attempts to claim other bands as progenitors/contemporaries in metal are laughable. Like people will bring up Deep Purple or Hendrix (or more rare bands like Lord Baltimore) but it's so obviously not metal when compared to Paranoid

there really wasn't another metal band until Judas Priest

Even Judas Priest wasn't metal until their second album, the 1976 Sad Wings of Destiny. That's six years between Black Sabbath releasing Paranoid and Judas Priest doing anything that could be called metal. I think much of it is Black Sabbath's influence being so ubiquituous in metal that people don't realize that it's all taken straight from Black Sabbath. Things like heavy power chord riffing, ubiquituous use of tritone as integral part of the riffs / melody, Geezer Butler's bass playing, down tuning etc.

It's a bit like people claiming The Beatles weren't that influential without realizing that the very concept of a rock band as we know it is based on their template.

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