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You are wasting so much time attacking my source in principle instead of just addressing it directly. Either put up or shut up. I'm not asking you for blind faith, I'm asking for you to put as much effort into a counterargument as I put into my argument. If the only method to mantain intellectual hygene is to dismiss opponents out of hand, then symmetrically I should do the exact same thing for any evidence conservatives propose to me-- including any evidence about institutional capture. But I don't believe in that, and I don't think you do either, because we are on a discussion forum. So, discuss!
anti-dan already attacked your source. I'm defending the idea of dismissing such sources. I know it's really annoying to have someone go through all this effort to put up the form of something that should be really persuasive, then have people see through it and realize it is only the form and the thing is not persuasive at all, but it's absolutely the right thing.
No, he didn't. He attacked the people responsible for the source, and acted like that was sufficient to dismiss the source itself. That's a textbook ad hominem.
Buddy, I am really not asking for much. I'm not asking you to make an hour-long takedown of the study's contents, I'm just asking you to find a concrete problem with it or find a contradictory source. Take my response to the CATO article as an example: I didn't go in and question every single stat, I just raised a single, salient problem.
You don't have to find the perfect source or argument, you just need to do a little bit better than I did. I probably won't be convinced on the spot-- but it'll force me to either give up on convincing you or do even better. In the latter case, even if neither of us ultimately manage to convince the other, at least we'll both have better knowledge of the subject that's tested against oppositional analysis. Which is still a pretty great outcome, for anyone who believes in the value of reasoned, good-faith debate. And if you don't believe in that value, why are you on the motte? If you just want people to agree with you without regard for truth value there are other, better platforms.
(also I just realized that you and anti-dan aren't the same person. Which is honestly kind of sad. You have the energy to dogpile me, but not the energy to find a single source to the anti-school-lunch position?)
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