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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 9, 2023

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I have been watching a lot about housing lately. The lack of affordability and so on. I won't bother you with details, since they are known to everyone. Almost every capital city in the developed world (and big parts of developing) is struggling with unaffordable rent, insane house price rises etc.

The process is usually something like this. Rural people move to cities, city people move to capital cities and capital cities people move to global cities. And global cities people try to live as close as possible to the city center. All the eastern europeans that I know that moved to UK didn't move to bumfuck nowhere in the Midlands. They moved to London. Ditto for a lot of other immigrants into the UK. So there is real demand to live in London. The process of concentration of people in the big metro areas doesn't seem to slow down or reverse (white flight is the only counter example).

So there is the minor problem that I have with YIMBY people - why do you think that building more will actually solve the problem with unaffordable housing? We have been adding lanes to highways since time immemorial (aka the 50s) and the congestion is still here.

But what I have been thinking is - are freedom of movement and affordable housing compatible at all? The communist regimes had something like city citizenship - you were allowed to move to the capital only with marriage/secured job in the city. Not saying it was good, but it kept the capitals a bit emptier. In the 30 years since the Berlin wall fell in my eastern european country the only people that didn't try to move to the capital are the ones that moved to London, Paris and the big German cities to make their housing situation worse.

Now people are sometimes just priced out and they move. And if the city becomes terrible people will also move. But so far it seems that if the city is safe enough, people are willing to tolerate insane economic hardships to live there. We can't cram 8 billion people in 20-30 megapolises. Could this be solved with policies alone? Should we even solve it? Is it ok to infringe on the right to move to actually strike a balance.

We have been adding lanes to highways since time immemorial (aka the 50s) and the congestion is still here.

Your induced demand analogy is wrong in 2 major ways.

First, Induced demand means that when more people can fit a car commute within their time budget, they do so, until the resource (lanes) runs out. But there is an upper limit to this : the number of people who need to commute on a daily basis. Or, the number of people who are employed in a salaried 9-5 job in that city. The upper bound is the number of salaried jobs available in that city.

Similarly, the number of people moving into a city will be upper bounded by some multiple of the number of salaried jobs that the city can support. People aren't asking for 'free' rent. They want the rent to reach this lower bound where demand tapers off.

The second mistake is the obvious counter to induced demand. People talk about induced demand to support funding for public transit: a more efficient form of transportation that scales far better with increasing demand. YIMBYs are effectively asking for the public transit equivalent of Single-family-homes. Why not have a more efficient form of housing that scales better with increasing demand, if increasing demand is inevitable.

You make my point for me. Highways are terrible for the same reason single family homes are terrible. Induced demand is a reality. Transit is a good solution because it addresses induced car-lane demand better just as apartment-buildings do for induced housing demand.

So there is real demand to live in London.

And it historically kept being met. In the 1980s people randomly decided that cities around the world were 'full'. By what mechanism did the degree of fullness get determined and why stop at this arbitrary time in the late 20th century ? (rhetorical question of course)

Almost every capital city in the developed world (and big parts of developing) is struggling with unaffordable rent, insane house price rises etc.

The struggle is not proportional or comparable at all.

India has entire dense metro cities springing up on the out-skirts of Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore and Hyderabad. These outskirts city have (planned or completed) fast metro transportation to the city core and very reasonable prices. Downtown & the coolest suburbs are expensive, but new re-development projects are adding dozens of extra floors and the price-per-sq-ft for these new fancier-apartments is actually a bit lower than the houses they were replacing.

The American rise in housing prices without a proportional increase in city population is unique. American city prices are soaring as populations stay stable. Something is off.

are freedom of movement and affordable housing compatible at all

I am glad you asked that. I would say 'yes' to a point and the US is the farthest away from that point, ie. as long as housing supply is flexible.

In 95% of American cities, the answer is a resounding 'yes' and in the last 5% it is still a resounding 'yes' once you go 5 miles away from the city core. Freedom of movement does become a problem when a city has vertically 'topped out'. But no US city is anywhere close to facing that problem right now. (Yes, not even NYC. Lower Manhattan, Midtown, & central-park-areas are the only topped out areas of NYC. Brooklyn & Queens are practically sprawling.)

there is the minor problem that I have with YIMBY people

Be more specific what you mean by YIMBY people. People who ask for a free-market in housing ? People who ask for the world's most restrictive zoning to be more in line with the global overton window? People who want the possibility of transit to exist and want density around said transit ? People who want to walk and be healthy ? People who are simply sick of paying too many taxes subsidizing a wasteful (in energy & money) lifestyle choice that is being shoved up their throats ?

Americans complaining about YIMBYs is the equivalent of Imams crying about women wanting to not wear an eye-slot burqa. "Have the YIMBYs gone too far ? How dare they ask to show nose-bridge in public or show ankle-bone." To the rest of the world, NIMBYs come across as clowns.

To extend this analogy further. A burqa clad woman asking to show her ankle bone is not a slippery slope to 3rd wave feminist post-gender society. The Muslim women just want some more rights within an oppressive system. But when the system is reluctant to give even that much, they react similar to women in Iran and choose loud revolt of the type that is deliberately meant to provoke. YIMBYs are in a similar place. They might have posters asking to eat landlords & creating a Le Corbusier-eque dream, but they are doing it more so to be provocative than as an actual ask.

Most YIMBYs just want uniform approval for 5+1 style apartment buildings, removal of deliberately obstructive building/parking codes and dense towers right on top of major public transit. Past that, allied groups want good transit infrastructure & protected bike lanes. This would be considered a NIMBY's dream in Europe or Asia. Only in the USA & Canada does this group pass off as as YIMBY.


I know I sound a little pissed off here. It is targeted more towards a hypothetical NIMBY in the sky than the OP necessarily.

The American rise in housing prices without a proportional increase in city population is unique. American city prices are soaring as populations stay stable. Something is off.

The problem is an Anglosphere one, rather than an American one - in fact the problem is less bad in the non-California US than it is in the UK or Australia. Hong Kong is a housing disaster (despite not being short of land - most of the island is unbuilt and the New Territories are not exactly dense). New Zealand went full YIMBY in the last few years, but was even worse than the UK or Australia. Singapore is a special case because they have housing communism for citizens, but free market rents for resident foreigners are through the roof. Even Mumbai has NIMBY problems. OTOH, continental Europe is in a much better state (Paris and Barcelona are the only unaffordable cities), and Tokyo is the one megacity that has actually done what OP suspects is impossible and outbuilt demand.

New Zealand went full YIMBY

I would actually love to know more about what happened in New Zealand. I don't know much about their system.

From what I understand about Australia, theirs is a Canadian problem, where high immigration forces the cities to be further aggressive in terms of housing.

Hong Kong is a housing disaster

I know of Hongkong's odd conundrum. Not sure why so much land goes unbuilt. I think something like 7% of HongKong's area is residential. That sounds like a NIMBY nightmare. Wonder if it caught the tail end of anglo influence with car centric zoning.

Even Mumbai has NIMBY problems

I haven't heard too much about this. The new development rate on Mumbai outskirts and the redevelopment rate within the city is incredibly high. There is a huge squatting & rent control / 100 yr lease problem. But, I haven't seen much NIMBYism. My entire family is still in Mumbai, and my entire neighborhood (in western suburbs) in undergoing redevelopment. Everyone has been eager for this, because it will replace our X-th floor K-bedroom apartment with a X+5th floor K+2 bedroom apartment, with rent for the displacement duration fully paid for.

Mumbai is building at an incredible rate. Parts of the city are perpetually dusty because of the sand being dumped anywhere and everywhere in the city for cement formation.

South Bombay is famously NIMBY, but they are snooty-assholes who are scared of the middle-class intruding on their upper-class oasis. Fuck em. There is NIMBYism around being permanently displaced by metro lines, but that is universal.

Paris and Barcelona are the only unaffordable cities

Are Paris suburbs also unaffordable ? I know that a lot of Parisians don't live in the city because the suburbs are dense, walkable and well connected to the city core by transit. Paris's regional rail is incredible.

Barcelona faces unimaginable pressures. Immense tourism pressure, probably the best city in the world to be a digital nomad in, incredible weather. Dense to the point of bursting. Architectural preservation is a completely fair reason for opposing new construction. If I had to name a perfect city, that would be it. It is kind of built to capacity. I don't blame them for being unable to accommodate more people. They have a hard problem on their hands. Maybe build a ghost city out of town with high speed rail connection to the city core ?

Hong Kong is a unique case.

Rather than owning the land, the land is leased from the government in 50-year increments. The only exception are old village rights that date back to the really, really early fishing village tier Hong Kong, which are worth millions now even if the land is undeveloped.

This is pretty much the primary source of funding the government gets. Every time a land, apartment, or house sale happens, the government gets a cut (this is referred to as "paying the land price") as they still own the land. There are also esoteric rules about how an apartment is taxed ("usable area").

The government is therefore incentivized to limit the amount of land that can be developed as housing to keep land prices high, even if it wasn't being used as a speculative asset by Mcdonalds, other corporations, and anyone in the mainland looking to liquidate yuan in favor of more secure financial holdings. They are also more interested in leasing to corporations or holdings with significant existing assets rather than individuals, as there is more collateral (this explains Hong Kong's endless malls).

There are significant benefits to this, like extremely low salary taxes and a government that experiences frequent windfalls distributed back to the populace in other ways, but on the whole most people under 30 have given up owning an apartment. It is possible, but you need to keep a highly paid (often highly stressful) job for 25+ years with no speed bumps, and significant money to pay up the first installment of the mortgage.