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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 8, 2025

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The economics of air travel are not immediately obvious. It’s not just distance/duration. Route availability and the density of the endpoints are even more important because airplanes and their infrastructure are so expensive. I wouldn’t think this is a particular Thai advantage.

Though it is funny to see bitching about airline prices followed by a complaint that it’s too cheap. And you’re not even worried that it’s a bubble or something—no, you’re scared of visa jumpers? That’s less credible than the traditional complaints about tourists. I feel confident that the US-UK routes are not a significant contribution to either country’s illegal immigrants.

Your story makes me think of the stereotypical “gap year” amongst privileged college students. Only in that case, any insights about America’s bizarre economy are far more likely to grant an affinity for socialism. It’s enough to make me wonder how your policy prescription looks.

I think its more that about the Eternal September of international travel driven by price and accessibility. In the old times they were sending their best for work and tourism. Now, not so much.

/pol/ was making a lot of hay about Thailand and more recently Philippines allowing 'short term' visa free entry from India for example.

I do find it interesting how as international tourism gets more accessible to upwardly mobile developing nations their tourists tend to catch a lot of flak for visibility and doing undesired things. Chinese arguably got the most 20 years ago (though as somebody who travels a lot I think they've worked out most of the rough edges now), then Indians now since there's such a large mostly-affluent population. Even in my own experience I find that rich Africans (from Africa) tend to be some of the absolute worst in terms of obnoxiousness and interactions with service staff, but I assume that's downstream of the Nigerians I see being 1%ers in their own country and that being their typical cultural modus operandi around service staff.

I too remember the wave of Chinese mainlanders popping across to Hong Kong and the locals' reactions to young ladies wearing $10k+ outfits encouraging their toddlers to defecate out on the street.

Yeah like I'm not saying Africans are at some particular personal civility deficit but I feel like they're currently in the spot of just now being affluent enough and having enough of an upper class that you'll notice them. Give it another 20-30 years and it'll probably normalize.