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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 22, 2025

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Has Trump ever done anything particularly homophobic? Like the quote above says that 'Donald Trump knows no floor' as if he was going to particularly go after her for being a Black Woman and Buttgieg for being gay when I'd argue he hasn't really done either. He makes fun of opponents but it's more the 'Crooked Hilary' kinda vibe than explicit Idpol attacks. I'm sure he's supported policies which make life harder for queer individuals (and I'd expect he were more Transphobic than anything but really the whole Trans association with the remainder of the Alphabet union is loose and silly at the best of times) but I can't really think of anything outright homophobic rhetorically.

Trump may not be homophobic but he seems very unlikely to shrink from taking advantage of an opponents homosexual orientation, regardless of his personal feelings around the subject.

The progressive idpol ideology that has been dominant in the Democratic party for the past decade+ groups all dimensions of anti-[demographic] bigotry into one, and more generally all dimensions of oppression into one. This is why AGW/climate change activist Greta Thunberg also happens to be a socialist who is pro-Palestine, and why mainstream journalism outlets publish opinion pieces about how "fatphobia" is rooted in white supremacy and misogyny.

As such, if Trump has ever said anything that could reasonably be construed as transphobic or sexist, then the people criticizing him over such things also genuinely, honestly believe that that necessarily means that he's also homophobic and racist and fatphobic and pro-fascist. So whether or not Trump ever said anything homophobic (or displayed any signs of having any particular antipathy towards homosexuality) is neither here nor there for determining whether or not he is a vile homophobe who would homophobically weaponize Pete's homosexuality against him for electoral gain.

True. I just don't get the particular accusation. Even the articles on 'Trump queerphobia' I could find were more of the 'Trump might reduce funding to medicare which might make it harder to get Gender Affirming surgery, therefore he is a transphobe therefore he is homophobic' which is just transparent 'cede to all of my group's demands or you are a whateverphobe'

which is just transparent 'cede to all of my group's demands or you are a whateverphobe'

Yes, yes it is. That you noticed this doesn't mean you have any ability to stop it from working, though.

Nah, but trans IS bundled into LGBTQ, so if Trump is running with 'She's with them, I'm with you', it'd hit extra hard with Buttigieg as VP.

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