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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 22, 2025

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This may be true, but the price of accepting that (for us in the US) is that our government will never get a handle around removable aliens.

there wasn't a national ID in 1954 and yet the Eisenhower administration expelled the vast majority of removable aliens they targeted

identifying illegals and removing them isn't difficult to accomplish because of a lack of national id, it's difficult to accomplish because the government and powerful interest groups don't want it to happen

it's not some big mystery where the vast bulk of illegals are in the US and it's relatively easy to identify the overwhelming vast bulk of them once they're encountered (race, language, documents)

the reason the right doesn't want national id is because it just gives even more power to the federal government which, for approx 80 years, may as well be structured specifically to harm the right

whether or not it's possible this increased power would make it marginally easier to id illegals doesn't matter because that's not what it would be used for and we know that because there are already on the books strict laws and requirements which are not followed or used

We should revisit this in a year or two to assess whether Trump's ICE, plus all the funding it got from the OBB, was able to accomplish this easy task.

the point is specifically about national id

if in a year or two, with vast resources or whatever you're implying, and the removable aliens haven't been removed, are you really trying to imply the reason is because there is no national id?

that's silly so I'm going to assume you were trying to make another point

what is it?

No, that’s kind of my point actually. Even employers that want to verify applicants aren’t able to do so accurately.

A government that cannot maintain territorial integrity is a government I consider to be "too small".

Well there ya go -- now we're at the point of tradeoffs with respect to the functions that are absolutely necessary.

It would be kinda silly if we both had government as a necessary evil and it was too disempowered to actually accomplish those ends.

I believe the standard rebuttal is "cannot ≠ will not".

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