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Transnational Thursday for October 2, 2025

Transnational Thursday is a thread for people to discuss international news, foreign policy or international relations history. Feel free as well to drop in with coverage of countries you’re interested in, talk about ongoing dynamics like the wars in Israel or Ukraine, or even just whatever you’re reading.

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I mean, yeah, in a full collapse. But it's tricky to know how likely that really is. Like, if I see papers like https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/adfa3b and https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-w, unclear whether these are dire warnings I really need to pay attention to, or trends that are exaggerated by ideologically captured scientists who have the incentive to overexaggerate the importance of their own research. Matters in real life decisions, too, as I'll soon be buying a house in Paraguay

AFAIK the degree of warming usually expected to stop AMOC is generally on the same degree or even higher than the cooling expected to result from the stop, so it mostly comes out as a wash except for slightly more winter extremes, but which are still limited to ca -10 °C. In general also, higher co2 + higher temperatures also mean plants grow better, (which we can already see with current levels) so I don't think starving will be a particular issue.

As someone living in northern germany, I'd certainly welcome a bit more snow in winter!

In Europe! But not in South America!