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We had this argument repeatedly during the "Maryland Dad" fiasco. The best example people could come up with for malfeasance was a missed piece of paperwork before quite properly deporting a human smuggling, wife-beating gang banger.
Napkin math suggests ICE is the most properly functioning government agency of all time. I'm honestly kind of shocked that there hasn't been any proper travesties.
You can look at the court filings yourself. Looks like a travesty to me. Discussed in more detail here.
And yeah having some travesties is unsurprising. The surprising thing to me is that someone is claiming that everyone detained can be looked up on a public website. "Everyone" is quite a high bar.
Oh, that looks like obvious malicious clown garbage. He has a broken leg. Why is he in the hospital for over a month with a broken leg? Unless that is understating his injuty to a hilarious extent, a broken leg is a couple hours of outpatient care and then getting released. Obviously this is a ploy to evade deportation, which ICE was trying to counter with the surveilance, and which this midnight Biden appointee, Hispanic activist judge is trying to shut down on ideological grounds.
You're right. It is a trravesty that that woman is a federal judge, abusing her position to subvert the rule of law for her ethnic nationalism.
Temperature check: do you think ICE should do whatever it takes to accomplish their goals, even when those goals involve behavior which is clearly unlawful, as long as they mostly limit unlawful behavior to people who are in the country illegally? If your answer is "yes", I'm not sure how productive of a conversation we can have here.
No. And I don't think they need to - to a degree that is honestly remarkable. The barrel scraping people have to go to to find examples of ICE fuckups is amazing. In the videos of confrontations I've seen, it's almost always been ICE agents showing commendable restraint in the face of unhinged provocation, occasionally capped by swift bursts of force when the unhinged protestor escalates to assault.
The simple fact that protestors feel safe and confident physically standing in front of ICE vehicals, doing Karen harassment of ICE officers, and going on psychotic, spittle-flecked rants directly in the faces of armed federal agents tells me that every one of those protesters is a LARPing retard who knows perfectly well that nothing Nazi-like is going to happen to them. In the absolute worst case scenario they get bruised comparable to getting tackled in a game of football. I find their behavior vastly more anti-social, and I lowkey hate the fact that their actions make me desire stricter laws against their bullshit.
tl;dr: Anti-ICE protestors look far more reprehensible and contemptible than the officers do.
I agree with this, particularly the ones in those videos. I just disagree that "better than the worst protestors" is the standard we should be aiming for.
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What? I admit to being possibly out of date regarding orthopaedics best practice, but my impression is that most tibial +/- fibular fractures require operative management. Isolated fibular shaft fractures maybe? Even for conservative management it's going to be a cast and crutches and no weight-bearing on that leg for weeks, with at least a couple clinic visits. Certainly not to the extent that you can be so blasé as to say "couple hours of outpatient care then getting released"!
Even if it was that severe of a break, a month in the hospital is an extreme outlier. I've known kids who all but destroyed an entire leg or hip socket in football who were home sooner than that.
"A couple hours in outpatient then follow up with an ortho" is actually the overwhemingly most common response to a broken leg, in my experience. It's what I literally did when I broke mine.
Hospitals are also obsessed with billing and a month long stay costs a fortune. Even if patient has insurance the ins co would object. It’s at least a red flag.
Hospitals are also extremely obsessed with not getting sued and with not accidentally doing something against policy - they'll eat the cost on a long stay instead of sending someone home to an unsafe discharge.
You'll see things like someone needing rehab, not being able to get placement because of whatever (like being illegal) and then just chilling in the hospital instead.
If someone lives up steps for instance they may not be able to go home.
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