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Friday Fun Thread for October 17, 2025

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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is pretty good if you don't mind some wokery that snuck its way in.

This always mystifies me, one of the selling points of KC:D 1 was that it used an unapologetically realist approach to the portrayal of medieval life. Not that it actually is perfectly realistic, but it at least tried to avoid the modernist left-wing lens. The author also took a clear stand against some ridiculous demands.

... And then for 2 he completely changes his tune. Henry and Hans gay, is already funny, but a coming out scene to his (by then dead) parents and they accept it. Musa lecturing the player on women's right and the player just has to take it, that's just lol. Women repeatedly outdoing the main char. Literal quote from the CEO:

Vávra made some unfortunate statements about the absence of black people in Bohemia when releasing KCD1 because he lacked PR experience.

Just why, you're already sucessful, why sell out so blatantly? It makes no sense, yet it happens repeatedly.

I mean, I think the main story of Battletech is cheesy and stupid, so I just play the sandbox mode. But nobody feels the need to defend it by "well it's optional, you can just play the sandbox mode!". Playing a game at all is, strictly speaking, optional.

Furthermore, Hans in KC:D 1 was more a specific person, not just an amorphous player insert like in, say, Skyrim or CP2077. In Witcher 3 one of the arguments against gay romance was this - the MC is Geralt, Geralt isn't gay, all the options for the player have to be broadly in alignment with that character. That wasn't very controversial.

The same goes even more for Henry; Even if pretending that Hans is just a player insert and so his optional choices do not reflect the character you're playing, the mere option of gay romance with Henry implies necessarily that Henry is now gay, despite no such indication in KC:D 1. Not to mention that the behaviour by everyone else ingame around this topic is extremely obviously anachronistic.

Just to be clear, I had no such issues with the gay romance in, say, CP2077. Even though having exactly 4 characters to cover all bases for all possible relationship patterns definitely felt very current-year, the characters themselves were mostly fine and consistent, and the portrayal of the relationships felt appropriate for the setting. What I really hate is fucking up a setting or character and breaking suspension of disbelief just to get some hobbyhorse in.

Is that crap unavoidable or merely a possibility ?

Just why, you're already sucessful, why sell out so blatantly? It makes no sense, yet it happens repeatedly.

Publisher forced it. KCD1 was financed by a local patron, some middling real-estate investor (150 million $ worth, ultimately invested $12 million into the game which isn't really peanuts). KCD2 wasn't.

Vávra hates that crap and is quite active on social networks so Czech 'liberals' really hate him, mostly around censorship where he's against the euroatlantic statist bullshit around 'disinfo' the EU loves so much but he also torches wokes regularly, it's unlikely he's responsible. The nice thing to do would be release an 'anonymous' mod that'd would just get rid of these forced changes.

That sounds reasonable, although sad. On the topic of unavoidability, see my other reply to Lazuli.

Dude, tag the spoilers. I knew about some of this already but others might not have.