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Wellness Wednesday for November 5, 2025

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Fun is one thing, being stoked is another. See also type 1 2 and 3 fun.

I don't want to get into an argument with an absent third party about what he enjoys. But...he's obviously lying if he says he doesn't enjoy lifting weights. He might have found some way to influencer his way to some money out of lifting now, but he did a whole lot of lifting before ever reaching a point where he could make a dime, and even now it is probably just a hobby. If he didn't enjoy doing it at some level, he wouldn't do it. If he wasn't stoked about it, about reaching his lifting goals, he wouldn't do it. I've read his posts before, he often works out multiple times a day, and he's not a real competitor in any serious lifting series. He's doing this because he loves it, because he is stoked about it. He just likes bitching about how much he hates squats because he finds that kind of negativity to be more serious or whatever.

I'm stoked about jiu jitsu. That doesn't mean I'm constantly smiling doing jiu jitsu, or that it is always fun. There's a lot of times I'm not having fun. Six months ago it was even less fun. But I'm interested in reaching my goals, so that even when I'm cooked and my muscles are exhausted and I'm pinned under some gorilla who is trying to smother me, I'm still stoked to keep showing up, every day that I can, so that I can get better. The stoke is what gets me through the unpleasantness. If I just did unpleasant things for no reason, I'd be a literal masochist.

So like, yeah, I can picture a hypothetical person who just fucks around doing the "fun parts" without ever doing the unpleasant training parts. That's good advice for people like that.

But I know a lot of people who just don't work out at all. Those who keep starting a program they don't like working toward a goal they don't really care about, and give up after a few weeks every time. Those people need to try other advice than "do what sucks."

He might have found some way to influencer his way to some money out of lifting now, but he did a whole lot of lifting before ever reaching a point where he could make a dime

I'm pretty sure he doesn't make a penny from this.

If he didn't enjoy doing it at some level, he wouldn't do it. If he wasn't stoked about it, about reaching his lifting goals, he wouldn't do it.

I think he likes achieving his goals, but he doesn't like the process at all. I don't see why that should be impossible.

I don't really think it's possible to "enjoy" doing a program like deep water, even if you enjoy achieving your goals.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't make a penny from this.

I didn't think so, but I haven't been reading lifting blogs for a while, so I didn't want to make an assumption.

I think he likes achieving his goals, but he doesn't like the process at all. I don't see why that should be impossible.

That's pretty much what I'm getting at when I talk about being "stoked" on something. Being interested in it and finding meaning in it.

I don't really think it's possible to "enjoy" doing a program like deep water, even if you enjoy achieving your goals.

I would guess that the majority of people who have done deep water enjoyed lifting at some level, because almost none of them got anything useful out of it.

Maybe they were all cumming day and night

Unfortunately, when it comes to high rep squats, the COOM feeling from the pump is overwhelmed by the sensation of having been hit by a truck.