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Using personal communication methods for government business is a widespread problem. Several members of Trump's cabinet did similar.
In Trump's case, he was asked on May 6th, 2021 to return classified documents. The raid happened on Aug 8, 2022. Trump wasn't being changed for his insecure practices. He was being charged for allegedly spending a year and a half actively stonewalling the government trying to recover all of the documents.
That sounds correct to me.
I don't know if this is true or not, but, assuming it's true, and assuming that there was a desire to pursue a lawfare attack against him, he could have been charged for what took place between January 20 and May 5. Agreed?
I did cite my source, and the government thought they had enough of a case that they brought it to court. Though that saga ended because they waited long enough that Judge Cannon arguably dragged the case until right before the election then tossed it under questionable circumstances.
He technically could have been charged for what took place before May 5th. On that I am agreed. However, I argue that there is in fact a gentleman's agreement for high ranking government officials to not prosecute over classified materials. And that gentleman's agreement is that if they tell you to return classified documents and you do, then nothing happens to you. My argument is that unlike Hillary or Biden, Trump tried to fuck with them when they tried to retrieve the documents. My argument is that the classified documents case wasn't lawfare because it wasn't primarily about hating Trump because he makes Democrats mad, it was Trump violating the gentleman's agreement and finding out what happens when you fuck around with three-letter agencies for a year and a half.
I am aware, but in my experience the mainstream media is not trustworthy when it comes to Trump.
Can you cite some precedents for this gentleman's agreement? Because I am seriously skeptical.
From the Clinton investigation:
Of course, that was Clinton, and I understand the assignment is that many here will say it's because she's a Democrat. Mike Pence cooperated with the search and no charges were brought. Here's a good read about some of the details of prosecution related to John Bolton, though I suppose it depends on if you're willing to believe it.
Looking back, it might be less a gentleman's agreement and more that prosecutors have typically been relying on proving intent. And if you can prove that you've given them several warnings and chances that would clear that bar.
Not necessarily. I mean, if you believed that you had a legitimate right to possess the documents and the person warning you was incorrect, then you might not have the necessary intent.
Sure, but extrapolating from that line of reasoning these alleged events wouldn't make sense.
If we assume that Trump believed he had every right to own these documents, wouldn't he have responded to the May 6th 2021 request to turn over documents with, "Yes, I took the documents. No I don't need to return them because I declassified them and have every right to keep them." Trump is generally pretty fucking brazen when he thinks he's in the right.
How did he respond?
As far as I can find, he largely didn't respond for most of 2021. This is the most detailed that I can find covering 2021 (section IV). All I can find of his response was a claim in September that all he had was 12 boxes of news clippings.
After the raid, he claims that during that time:
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