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Transnational Thursday for November 27, 2025

Transnational Thursday is a thread for people to discuss international news, foreign policy or international relations history. Feel free as well to drop in with coverage of countries you’re interested in, talk about ongoing dynamics like the wars in Israel or Ukraine, or even just whatever you’re reading.

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A language is a dialect with an army and a navy.

During this holiday season, are you interacting with any far-flung relatives who speak strange creoles/patoises/pidgins of your language? Do you think that such modes of speech should be considered proper languages in which their inhabitants can take pride, or merely disgusting bastardized dialects suitable only for reassimilation into the mother tongue? As a USAian with several relatives (mostly from Trinidad and St. Croix) who speak English with a very thick accent, and at least one (IIRC, from Antigua) who probably can be considered a speaker of creole rather than of English proper, I am inclined toward the latter opinion.

(I'm putting this in the Thursday thread rather than in the Friday thread because it seems like a culture-war topic. See, e. g., the laughs that /pol/ extracted from BBC Pidgin a while ago.)

I am interacting with Paraguayans, which have a simplified and in a sense more rational version of Spanish with consistent verb endings. Despite being landlocked, it does have a navy, which patrols its rivers.