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In response to the Afghan national attacking National guard troops in DC Trump promised to "permanently pause" immigration from all Third world countries in a Truth Social post. That sounded too good to be true and it was.
Trump is actually pausing immigration from only 19 countries, which are Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Venezuela.
Meanwhile the top sources of 3rd world immigration are Mexico, India, Philippines, El Salvador, Vietnam, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Guatemala and Colombia. The only place where those two lists overlap is Cuba.
MAGAs must make up their minds about whom they dislike first.
Are you worried about demographic replacement, elite takeover or unintegrated criminals ?
"Stop all non-white immigration" may resonate in some circles, but isn't representative of American or Trump voter preferences.
His actions are in reaction to unintegrated criminals, primarily from Islamist nations. Why would you expect it to affect Mexico, India or the Philippines ?
Trump's post only vaguely points to his intentions vis-a-vis legal migrants.
Lets see.
This would imply removal of benefits for all green card holders ? Visa holders don't get federal benefits anyway. Immigrants must pay into social security, pay taxes and rising visa fees. All while being ineligible for benefits. Cool. What was that about taxation without representation ?
Americans already agree that violent felons who lied on their naturalization doc should be deported. Visa & green card holders with felonies are already banned from reentry. Outside existing norms (terrorism, child predator, Nazi), it is very hard to de-naturalize an American who got their citizenship legally. Trump has limited power and courts have a ton of precedent. Doesn't help that it requires a jury to convict.
Apart from criminality, How does Trump define 'incompatible with western civilization' ? Maybe he means the Amish, the native Americans, the Mormon or the Scientologists ? Does he mean pluralist, liberal & tolerant ? Does he mean white, protestant and english speaking ? IMO, it's a whole lot of words that mean nothing. Trump 101.
Personally, I'm sick of white supremacists using motte-and-baileys to criticize immigrants.
It's revealing that Indians, Mexicans and Filipinos are the main groups they have issues with.
Indians are a model minority, speak English, from a pluralistic democracy and uniquely economically productive. Other than color and religion, they satisfy every bar for a model American.
Mexicans are devout Christians, take all the 'shit' jobs, have a fair claim to the land and work harder than any 'sanctity of work' protestant I've seen. There are valid concerns about criminals and cartel members. But, as we covered before, Americans and Trump are already aligned on their deportation. If every illegal immigrant and every Mexican criminal is deported, Mexicans will still continue immigration in large numbers through legal family based migration and birthright citizenship for children of legal workers.
Filipinos are devout Christians, pre-indoctrinated (due to American colonial occupation), peaceful and most immigrate to fill middle-of-the-pack essential jobs in healthcare, military and education.
There is no venn diagram that fits all 3 groups except - "not white". If you want fewer non-whites. Just say that.
P.S: I've heard geographic arguments claiming 'America is full' and they don't want more immigrants of any color. I am not going to address why this opinion is bad. It's a tired one.
Mexicans, Filipinos, and Vietnamese are the best major groups of immigrants. There are some black groups which number among the same. This isn't a straight race thing- south Asians rub a lot of people the wrong way. Superiority complexes, difficulty assimilating, it doesn't matter how good they are for the economy. I just dislike the median Indian immigrant for being a rude, snooty pagan with a different attitude towards the truth than better immigrant groups like Latinos or Southeast Asians, while also being less willing to assimilate. As Indian immigration becomes more visible, expect more of this.
Dominicans are darker than Indians while not bringing nearly as much personal distaste. It isn't a race thing, although it probably doesn't help that you can tell Indians very easily by looking at them. Among actual IRL Trump voters immigration from southeast Asia, other parts of the new world, etc is far more acceptable than from India. There may be demand for lower numbers overall, because widespread bilingualism is not popular, but there's no personal resistance to Mexicans.
In the UK immigrants from Christian Africa who came in via selective routes (like Kemi Badenoch) and Indians (like Rishi Sunak) are the leading candidates for model minorities. I don't know why anti-Indian racism is so much easier to run with in the US than the UK - my guesses would be some combination of religion (Christianity is a bigger part of your national identity than ours) and the first wave of Indian immigrants in the UK being people who had collaborated with the British Empire.
I suspect you having a large Pakistani population makes them look good by comparison, and we’re probably more exposed to memes from Canada. But also Americans are less used to a class hierarchy; snooty Brahmins rub average Americans much worse than they likely do Brits.
I also wonder what economic niche Indians fill in Britain- middleman minorities are virtually never popular, although Indians are far less popular than eg Koreans.
The stereotypical Indian in America isn't a middleman minority - they are a H1B computer programmer.
The stereotypical Indian in the UK is doing some mid-level professional job - pharmacy, accountancy, IT etc.
No, Americans openly refer to ‘7/11 Indians’. Owning gas stations is a stronger stereotype for them than computers.
Yeah. Apu from the Simpsons was the prevailing stereotype for a generation essentially, though I guess even his visa was originally obtained for tech research of some sort if I recall correctly.
If anything the newer cohort making their money through wishy-washy Tech & Consulting roles has probably done a lot to dent the image compared to back when it was motels, convenience stores and doctors. There's a sense amongst the general public that tech employment is a gigantic rort, and a sense amongst non-Indian tech workers that Indians have essentially zero qualms in giving eachother massive assistance in finding these roles and gaming the fuck out of a system defined by nebulously clinging to a gigantic money tree more than outright 'productivity'.
Like maybe I oversimplify but I feel that Indians are currently getting a direct conduit to a lot of resentment shown towards the 'laptop job' classes since the average man on the street finds it hard to define what said classes do, how people are qualified for those jobs and why their own applications are rejected whilst money is rained down upon the lucky few product managers and whatnot. I'm personally fortunate enough to have FIREd as a result of a couple years in the tech mines and a lucky strike or two, but even I find it hard to ken exactly what it is that the majority of people in Facebook, Google etcetera in the year 2025 actually 'do'.
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