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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 8, 2025

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I think the simple explanation is that society generally condones or at least tolerates porn “actresses” making large amounts of money

I am not sure that I entirely understand the point that you are trying to make, because it seems that you are not making any point, but there is no central committee that needs to condone every monetary transaction between people. If someone discovers a clever way to make and deliver 500,000 pizzas every month at a profit, society in general probably does not even know about it, unless it gets highlighted in media etc.

Like others pointed out, it is all supply and demand. Society condoning or tolerating people making money has nothing to do with it. The only way that society's tolerance affects things is how it limits the supply of people willing to provide the thing that people are willing to pay for. In reality the relationship between making money and society's tolerance is the opposite of what you seem to think. The more something is tolerated, the more people are open to doing it, and therefore the supply goes up and the money that any one individual can make goes down. If there were 800,000 women doing the same thing as Bonnie Blue, then each of them would make on average 1 pound a month, but since 799,999 women said "nope" then one single woman gets to harvest all the demand.

I am not sure that I entirely understand the point that you are trying to make, because it seems that you are not making any point, but there is no central committee that needs to condone every monetary transaction between people.

People are generally OK with Bonnie Blue making around 800,000 pounds a month because they understand that she's sociologically damning herself so it seems only fair that she's making a lot of money while she can; it's also not illegal and complaining about it just makes you appear like a loser. The people making money for her are loser men anyway so nobody cares. In a similar manner, we're generally OK with fashion models (or at least some of them) making a lot of money because we understand that their careers are generally short, and with men doing dangerous jobs getting good pay because it's known that they might die on the job.

You seemed to be saying earlier that people being OK with Bonnie Blue earning a lot of money is the explanation for why she is able to earn a lot of money. Now you only claim that people are OK with Bonnie Blue making a lot of money, but are no longer claiming that that explains why she is able to. So your point actually seems to be quickly deflating into nothing.

If people were generally not OK with Bonnie Blue making a lot of money, how could we tell? What would be different in that hypothetical universe compared to our actual universe? And if people generally did not even know who Bonnie Blue is, and did not even care, how could we tell? How would that hypothetical universe be different compared to our actual universe?

In reality the relationship between making money and society's tolerance is the opposite of what you seem to think. The more something is tolerated, the more people are open to doing it, and therefore the supply goes up and the money that any one individual can make goes down. If there were 800,000 women doing the same thing as Bonnie Blue, then each of them would make on average 1 pound a month, but since 799,999 women said "nope" then one single woman gets to harvest all the demand.

To be a bit more specific regarding doing the same thing… Bonnie Blue makes as much as she does through relentless self-promotion. Doing something degrading like having sex with dozens of men in a day, and then winding up in the discourse for it, is how she’s been able to stand out from the glut of wouldbe porn stars.

Only fans, etc. has millions of content creators and millions of women who are fine with showing various amounts of themselves. There is not an under supply of women open to being porn actresses/OnlyFans models. It is, rather, an attention economy. The top earners on OnlyFans make a lot of money while the overwhelming supermajority of women who expose themselves online will never earn enough to replace a minimum-wage full time job (but would certainly like to earn that much).

If there were 800,000 women doing the same thing as Bonnie Blue, then each of them would make on average 1 pound a month, but since 799,999 women said "nope" then one single woman gets to harvest all the demand.

This doesn't sound right. If 800,000 were willing. I'd guess the allure of it would fade and the pie would shrink.

I'm not sure I follow. What exactly doesn't sound right? Allure would fade for whom? How exactly would this loss of allure shrink the pie?

For punters who are willing to pay something for something unique. If lots of people all do the same formerly unique thing, they don't get a share of the spoils of fame, they (potentially) all get nothing.

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