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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 8, 2025

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Which mods have acknowledged this?

Hmm, this one I misremembered...

Yes, the community here has suffered evaporative cooling and a hardening of consensus viewpoints.

...although this is somewhat tacit acknowledgement.

This is just wrong and tells me you're either being disingenuous or you just don't pay attention.

Who have you banned for saying naughty things about blacks, immigrants, women or progressives on par with hanikrummihundursvin? I don't think faceh or sloot have been banned for ranting about women being the mental equivalent of children (afaict this ban was for being a generic asshole). You'll say whiningcoil is on the edge, but as far as I'm aware he hasn't eaten a 90 day ban and has plenty to say about immigrants wrecking his town.

No we don't. This is, again, flatly wrong. If we were free speech absolutists, we wouldn't ban people for calling brown people locusts and Jews parasites

Yes, this is my point...

How many places on reddit or elsewhere can I very calmly and civilly argue for why I don't think trans women are women, or HBD may be real?

...and how many places can hanikrummihundursvin calmly and civilly argue that he hates the subhuman subcontinental filth and Jewish parasites that are holding down the proud Aryan race? You're proud that the speech you like is allowed here while being verboten on reddit, even as you ban the speech you dislike and put boundaries on what the deplorables are allowed to say.

But someone coming in saying Black Lives Matter and Trans Rights Are Human Rights would be allowed to argue for those positions.

I have not, and would not deny it.

BUT - it must be said, one reason they break so readily is that they are just not used to people being allowed to dogpile them, instead of the other way around.

There is some truth to this. But there's more to the story than libruls are thin-skinned snowflakes who can't handle disagreement. Not everyone wants to share a space with people calmly and civilly advocating for political violence or genocide any more than you want to share a space with 4channers.

But your criticisms are off base and mostly just wrong when not outright disingenuous.

We've done this a couple times, and usually your argument is just repeating that you're wrong, Chrispratt. Do you think you're going to change my mind just by repeating that you think I'm wrong, or do you feel the need to defend your record to the audience? Are you worried I'm going to evaporate as well? If it's the latter, I'll probably hang around until this place dies from a lack of activity and things get boring - no need to try and convince me one way or another.

But anyways. You're wrong, Amadan. I think you're ingenuously wrong. I think you're all doing a good job as moderators, but I'm less and less impressed with the free speech argument the longer I stick around.

...and how many places can hanikrummihundursvin calmly and civilly argue that he hates the subhuman subcontinental filth and Jewish parasites that are holding down the proud Aryan race? You're proud that the speech you like is allowed here while being verboten on reddit, even as you ban the speech you dislike and put boundaries on what the deplorables are allowed to say.

You seem to have a seriously different view of Amadan than I do. He's actually somewhat liberal, but he seems to have not moved along with the rest of the party when they took up their new issues in the last 15 years. I see him running up against the rest of the forum on a semi-regular basis, sort of like you, and he was one of the first ones to doubt my sincerity when I made my own post on the Holocaust.

Who have you banned for saying naughty things about blacks, immigrants, women or progressives on par with hanikrummihundursvin? I don't think faceh or sloot have been banned for ranting about women being the mental equivalent of children (afaict this ban was for being a generic asshole). You'll say whiningcoil is on the edge, but as far as I'm aware he hasn't eaten a 90 day ban and has plenty to say about immigrants wrecking his town.

This is exactly the sort of pedantic argumentation I hate. I know for a fact I have personally warned and/or banned people for making posts about blacks and women and liberals and Democrats that crossed the line.

You, trying to play "Why did you ban Jimmy and not Johnny" for the zillionth time, want to litigate each and every case where we as mods decided that this post about Jews was acceptable but that post was not. You are being willfully obtuse. You know, because we have reiterated it many, many times, that you can make just about any argument if you can "color within the lines." Yes, that means what "crosses the line" is somewhat subjective. Does that bother you? Tough, it's how it's been for years. Do you think I or another mod made an error of judgment in an individual case? Maybe, it's possible! But I am not going to put much weight on your opinion, or anyone's opinion, who's just making bad and disingenuous arguments because they have general dissatisfaction that we mod people they think shouldn't be modded and don't mod people they think should be modded.

...and how many places can hanikrummihundursvin calmly and civilly argue that he hates the subhuman subcontinental filth and Jewish parasites that are holding down the proud Aryan race?

hanikrummihundursvin is not the only one who regularly posts about how much he hates the subhuman subcontinental filth and Jewish parasites that are holding down the proud Aryan race. And they usually don't get banned, because usually they can phrase it in a way that conforms to our rules. This is not Hanik's first, second, or twentieth time expressing how much he hates Jews, but sometimes he loses control, and he gets banned.

You're proud that the speech you like is allowed here while being verboten on reddit, even as you ban the speech you dislike and put boundaries on what the deplorables are allowed to say.

This is a lie, and I resent you lying about my motives and my actions. If I were banning speech I dislike, a lot more people would be banned. If I were putting boundaries only on the "deplorables," I wouldn't ban anyone expressing sentiments I broadly agree with (I assure you, I have).

But there's more to the story than libruls are thin-skinned snowflakes who can't handle disagreement

This is not what I said. In a hypothetical Motte where the majority is liberal but with a zealous commitment to letting anyone argue anything as long as they do so civilly (gods, I wish such a place existed), someone who came in politely arguing that actually, blacks really are lower in IQ and higher in criminality and women really shouldn't be allowed to vote would probably get dogpiled relentlessly until he snapped. I do not think lefties are particularly more thin-skinned than righties -- though I do think in the current political climate, liberals are a lot more comfortable in a controlled speech environment and become a lot more uncomfortable in an environment like this one where speech is not controlled they way they're used to.

We've done this a couple times, and usually your argument is just repeating that you're wrong, Chrispratt.

Yes. You are wrong.

Do you think you're going to change my mind just by repeating that you think I'm wrong, or do you feel the need to defend your record to the audience?

No, I do not think I am going to change your mind.

"Why do you argue with ankle-biters?" is a question I often ask myself. Sometimes I even promise myself I am going to stop. Still working on it. That I still suffer from "People are wrong on the Internet!" syndrome is probably why I am still here.