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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 5, 2026

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Not immediately executing someone for doing something is not the same as allowing them to do it.

How it could be any other way is that the police don't stand in front of vehicles to try to stop them from driving away and if they drive away against police orders, they can use a number of other safe techniques for pursuing and arresting them. Standing in front of cars and shooting the drivers is way down the list of preferred options for stopping vehicles and was easily avoidable in this situation.

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No, that effectively makes being in a car a get out of jail free card, especially if they haven't identified you yet, if the car is stolen, or the plates aren't visible etc. People learning to not be retards who try and run from cops (and who fight it in court if it's legitimately a wrongful arrest or whatever) is the only option that will lead to a stable society.

The car wasn't stolen and the plates weren't hidden. But even if they had been, why wouldn't it better for the police to simply pursue the car, stop it, pull her out, and arrest her normally? This is done all the time. What about that causes society to be unstable? It's not a get out of jail free card. It's just dealing with the situation in a way that is unnecessarily harmful to the suspect.

But even if they had been, why wouldn't it better for the police to simply pursue the car, stop it, pull her out, and arrest her normally?

Because car chases put the general public in danger. I'd much rather cops just blast people like this then let them put the public at risk.

Then they shouldn't do a car chase. They have many options. I think this is absurd trade off to make. The probability of someone getting hurt if they just arrest in a her a normal way is absolutely miniscule compared to the guaranteed harm of shooting her to death. Sure, if you put a sufficiently low value on the lives of people who are committing minor crimes, you can justify any level of police brutality, but that's not a reasonable basis on which to make an argument.

The probability of someone getting hurt if they just arrest in a her a normal way is absolutely miniscule compared to the guaranteed harm of shooting her to death.

They were trying to arrest her in a normal way, she chose to flee instead. I really don't know how else to explain this to you. If we implemented your (and apparently many leftists') ideals for policing, the clearance rate for all crimes would drop somewhere between 90 to 99%. I'm not exaggerating here.

I'd be willing to let that happen, in exchange for citizens being allowed to blow away criminals without fear of prosecution. But I doubt that's a deal the left would be willing to make. So no, I'm not going to stand by and let the left undermine essential rules and tools for being able to maintain public order.

The US has already implemented this ideal. It's illegal to shoot suspects to stop them from fleeing. Police, including ICE, are told not to stand in front of moving vehicles and not to shoot at their drivers.

Police, including ICE, are told not to stand in front of moving vehicles and not to shoot at their drivers.

He didn't stand in front, he wasn't in front until she reversed. And cops are absolutely allowed to stand in front of parked vehicles to keep them from fleeing.

I already addressed this in my other comment, but cops absolutely can shoot fleeing suspects if they reasonably believe they pose a threat to the cop or others. A lady whipping her car around with reckless disregard for the agents in order to escape (and, to the officer who got hit, with seeming intent to hit him) it is absolutely a justified shoot.

He didn't stand in front, he wasn't in front until she reversed.

There's no contradiction there. He got in front while it was reversing and then stopped in front of it.

And cops are absolutely allowed to stand in front of parked vehicles to keep them from fleeing.

The question is not about what they're allowed to do. It's about what they're instructed to do. Going against standard practice may be legal, but it is not reasonable, particularly if is aware of the dangers involved, as he would have to have been in order to believe his life was subsequently in danger.

I already addressed this in my other comment, but cops absolutely can shoot fleeing suspects if they reasonably believe they pose a threat to the cop or others. A lady whipping her car around with reckless disregard for the agents in order to escape (and, to the officer who got hit, with seeming intent to hit him) it is absolutely a justified shoot.

I agree with the first sentence, but I totally disagree with the later. It is not enough for the person to in some vague sense pose a danger. Driving at a low speed near others doesn't come anywhere close to the level of danger required to kill the driver. The threat must be one of imminent and severe bodily harm.

This idea that the police are justified in ending someone's life based on the remotest possibility of someone getting hurt is something I cannot understand.

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