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Friday Fun Thread for February 3, 2023

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Women in male-dominated communities like heavy metal or video games often complain about men gatekeeping them, which typically takes the form of a man aggressively demanding that a woman name three songs by the band whose T-shirt she is wearing.

What women don't realise is that sometimes this gatekeeping is carried out for the woman's own protection, to avoid the woman being accused of tacitly endorsing neo-Nazism and white supremacy, however unintentionally.

/s /s /s

I used to play ranked CSGO at a high level and that means for every 1000 male players there was 1 female player.

The problem being the females used to be universally much worse at the game than their elo. Reason being they usually have high level guys willing to play with them and help them go up the ranks. Lingo for doing this was called boosting.

All female players I came across barring none were boosted to oblivion and that made their teammates frustrated. People berate and roast their teammates anyways regardless of demographic, females just got female specific insults thrown their way instead of being called a faggot. Women interpret this as hostility specifically towards them when in reality everyone gets their fair share of hostility. Thats common within all male dominated hobby groups, girls are just not used to those dynamics. When you call your teammate a fucking idiot, its just that he was being a fucking idiot, its not personal.

Thats common within all male dominated hobby groups, girls are just not used to those dynamics. When you call your teammate a fucking idiot, its just that he was being a fucking idiot, its not personal.

Certainly in online games in my experience there seems to be little correlation between being a fucking idiot and being called one. The correlation is usually them doing something the other person did not agree with.

I've been called an idiot for piloting a Centurion (a very non-meta pick at the time) because it is my favorite mech. I am playing for fun, they care about winning. We have different goals. Berating teammates is one of the most most annoying parts of online gaming, and I used to play rugby! And online gamers (or some of them at least) manage to be much more committed dicks over a fun bunch of pixels than a bunch of testosterone fueled macho men risking broken bones. Online gaming is I think worse than other male dominated hobby groups in this respect because of the anonymity and distance. and because some people get so attached they think it is more important than it actually is.

It's just a game. If someone messes up, it's ok.

From the other side, if a game has a competetive mode, you expect your teammates to actually try to win. The teams result affects your elo. I was very high ranked so that wasnt much of a problem. But if you are playing for fun stick to casual mode.

One twist to these kinds of dynamics, as someone who was quite high ranked in a couple of games myself, is that berating your team mates is a poor decision just on the strategy level. You can maybe if you have a good rapport established, suggest other players do something else, especially when citing some game reason, I don't know CS GO but maybe a gun choice is poor because it doesn't fit as well into the team composition this game rather than just being a dumb idiot choice in general. If they push back at all it's pretty much a losing play to continue to antagonize them. You really can go up a few ranks in team base competitive games just by minimizing the number of times your team mates tilt.

is that berating your team mates is a poor decision just on the strategy level.

In my experience in Red Orchestra 2, playing as a squad leader and berating bad campers so they'd stop hiding and go assault the objective, in worst cases summarily executing them for 'cowardice' kind of worked.

It's also fairly in character - summary execution for failure to carry out orders was a thing in the Red Army.

In other games, explaining why what they're doing is stupid is usually enough - no need to call them idiots.

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