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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026

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That's fair. There are some models that allow more specific control prompt-only of multicharacter composition, like Whisk, Nano Banana, and Qwen, but they have tradeoffs and tend to give 'worse' output quality if used as the only or final part of a workflow. In-painting can give phenomenal amounts of control for very complex character layouts (or background layouts), but at the cost of a lot of tedious work (cw: 9mb video file). There's been similar efforts using related technologies for comics, loresheets, game environments, and ultra-complex characters (in the furry fandom, usually things like cyborgs and complex hybrids).

Which does give more space for self-expression, but it's not going to have the volume to be visible in a DeviantArt firehose view.

In-painting can give phenomenal amounts of control for very complex character layouts (or background layouts), but at the cost of a lot of tedious work (cw: 9mb video file).

This is actually a very heartening video! It shows that you can make a complex scene that doesn't have this PonyXL house style. How do AI artists deal with preserving character details from image to image? It seems to me this is even more important for furry art (various fur patterns must be harder to reproduce correctly than "black hair, pixie cut").