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Lykurg  We're all living in Amerika  1yr ago (putanumonit.com)   4165 thread views

Why Are Women Hot? – Put A Number On It!

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Primarily relevant to here through the discussion of what people claim to find attractive vs. choose, but also considers various other measures of attractiveness. I dont agree with all these analyses but think its worth posting simply for considering the topic in a lot more detail then Ive previously seen.

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I've discussed in a past comment that "high status" women not being the most biologically attractive is just status competition rearing its head once again.

Also I think there is a disconnect between biological attractiveness and "beauty standards". A mate that looks a certain way is an indicator of status, that certain way might not be the most biologically attractive.

Additionally, human sexuality is dual-track, and the physical avatars of "madonna" and "whore" differ. The same phenomenon is seen in men, with women splitting top marks between hypersexualized "bad boys" and "dad bods". r/k selection, whatever you want to call it. There are at least two (and probably more) "ideal" body types, looks, whatever you want.

That whole nexus of ideas strikes me as .. not firmly founded.

A lot of famously quoted research on it just failed to replicate, for example the one about female preferences differing by ovulation status.

The whole 'dad bod'.. they settle for it. It's a preference only for a minority

If they were shown someone who looks like a bad boy, but dressed profesionally and taken, they'd go for that guy way, way more than for any 'bad boy'.

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