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They have relations with men that are not consumed with hate and resentment. A PMC chick tweeting about "#Killallmen" is obnoxious, but is she actually spending her life hating on men, like incels do about women? Generally not. When an incel occasionally manages to land a relationship, he either drops the incel act, or his seething resentment and sense of entitlement still poisons the relationship.
2-4: You claimed I was "copping out" by pointing out that society is also hard on women. You apparently take the position that it's worse for men and women have it easier. Much of this seems based on the grievances of men who don't do well. So no, the fact that incels are unsympathetic doesn't in itself contradict any theory of society being harder on men, but it makes me wonder why you are arguing that we should be sympathetic to incels, and why you want a declaration against both-sidedness. Nothing you have said makes the case that society is in fact more unfair to men than women. Society is "accomodating" to women's sexual desires, because men will always "reward" women willing to offer sex. But they are punished differently than men–men are "punished" by not getting laid; women are punished by the reality of the dating market and aging, with some hard truths it is impolitic to talk about nowadays. I reject your thesis that women just coast on "Women are wonderful."
How do I know whether a person's relations are "consumed with hate and resentment"? Seriously, how would one know?
Actually, forget it. See below.
How do you know that incels spend their lives hating on women? To be sure, some post a lot of hateful messages online, but how do you know that's their life?
Actually forget it. See below.
What is the "it" in "it's worse for men"? I have no idea what you are referring to.
Actually forget it. See below.
Please show me where I so argued. Please quote me. Failing that, please admit I said no such thing and apologize.
Actually forget it. See below.
I have no idea what your point is here. Do you concede that my point was about a single issue -- whether society is more accommodating of female sexual desires than male sexual desires? If so, what difference does it make whether anything I have said makes the case that society is in fact more unfair to men than women?
Actually forget it. See below.
Having finished reading your post, I see that you (1) have evaded my simple questions which would have allowed me to understand your position; and (2) aggressively strawmanned me. I made a point about one narrow issue: Accommodation of male sexual desires versus female sexual desires and you tried to pretend it was a discussion about something else.
I don't engage with people who hide their position behind a cloak of ambiguity and I don't engage with people who strawman me.
This discussion is concluded. Goodbye.
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