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Sure, I'll internalize it further by voting to remove funding from Grandma because the boomer's couldn't save a 401k like the rest of the following generations and couldn't not blood-let the economy either.
Sure, that'd reduce the redistributive tax burden and proportional reduce the difference expect from those producing the next generation and they who must contribute in other ways. Still there are many other ways you implicitly free ride on the parents. Even in ancapistan where you've hoarded capital, durable goods and gold for your retirement when it comes to you needing to exchange those things for youthful labor you are depending on someone to have brought that youthful labor into existence. One could probably come up with a fancy financial product to have parents paid now as some kind of royalty for future labor of their offspring by anyone who expects to benefit from it, but that simplifies to a general transfer.
The problem with any redistributive scheme around this topic is that you are in essence punishing people for things that are generally outside their control. I'm a man. I cannot have kids. No about of forced taxes to pay for the privileged people who can is going to change biology. In order for me to have kids I'd need to find a woman who wants them. Single rates are up and unless the State is going to do something dysgenic like make it legal for me to go around raping woman or forcing them to marry me to get my TFR quota in, I'm not sure what there is much I can do about it.
This entire exercise is some weird technocratic meddling. Just go full authoritarian already. We already think that men don't have a right to bodily autonomy in times of crisis. Make the same argument for women, this is a fertility crisis. Go draft women to be mothers. A state that can't get its citizens to volunteer to make sacrifices for it has no right to exist. Apparently people have forgotten that quintessential rule. If that means most of the first world then let them die. Maybe the next batch of cultures will learn from our mistakes.
That's not what I'd normally call "beyond my control".
Yeah, how about just putting the same penalty on childless women?
I would as I have been actively dating for marriage for the better part of 15+ years at this point. The reality is that I have yet to find a partner who both wants me and wants to have kids. It is literally outside of my control, as I do not possess the powers of mind control.
If the goal is to control behavior why not just go full Gilead, 1984, or Brave New World? At least that would be intellectually honest. Punishing people for behavior that requires another agent to cooperate them is very totalitarian. Unless you just want women to have kids out of wedlock with every random dude or sperm bank to escape the societal collapse. I'm sure just like Mao, y'all will then be whining about all the single mothers with shitty kids and the dysgenic impact that has on society. One of the problems with technocracy is arrogant technocrats who can't see past the current crop of problems or plan long term.
It's cheaper?
Nah, if anything, I was prepared to say "out of wedlock kids don't count".
I don't know, sometimes you have to give everyone a good bonk on the head, to get them out of a defect-defect equilibrium.
But apparently less effective. I feel like a percussive maintenance approach to fixing a defect-defect is similar to a pray and spray approach to shooting. It might work, it might not, but punishing people on a "might" is how you get the saying: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
I always find it funny, ironic, and depressing how people on the right are not opposed to technocratic solutions, they just don't want to be a on the receiving end of them. Everyone wants to wear the boot.
Not necessarily. Going full Big Brother could trigger a rebellion, causing the effectiveness to go to zero.
All of politics is. Contrary to it's pretense, sociology is not a science, so there's a lot of going with your gut when you're governing.
Where's the humor / irony / gloom? Not everyone on the right is a libertarian. In fact, it's only a small minority that is. Though I object to being called a technocrat.
No but economics is and is a far better tool than your gut when dealing with large markets and the mass decisions of human behavior. Mass human interactions are all fundamentally markets. I think assuming sociology = politics is the exact urge that technocrats have...
What else do you call someone who attempts to solve human problems like its an experiment to be managed or its factorio/paradox/rimworld esque. I think this impulse is exactly the technocratic one.
Obviously not, but plenty on the right object to being forced into compliance as though they were playthings of the technocratic mind. A principle they do not reciprocate in their own wild fantasies of power. So for them the question is not "Is the boot good" but "How do I get to wear the boot". As such when they morally grandstand about the abuse of the progressive wokes they aren't standing on principle but against the radical belief that in a democracy you will need to share the boot. There is dark humor in the idea that adults are fundamentally just kindergarteners with power who never learned to share.
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