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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 23, 2026

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Idk man. This was probably the least controversial Olympics of my lifetime. A week later, 4chan of all places is still gushing over the woke alt hapa IVF skater chick. /sp/ jannies simply cannot delete the threads fast enough. World peace achieved.

I guess I understand the adoration of Liu, especially when contrasted with Gu, but I can't bring it in me to cheer for someone who literally has 0 ancestors who are American, who has a Chinese father and no mother.

Yet still, she participated in the ritual. She played her part, and that matters.

Are you alluding to the theory that Arthur Liu smuggled in bootleg eggs from Russian figure skaters in the mid-2000s? Because the official story is that her biological mother is a white American.

No, I have no idea about that. But a chinaman buying a white woman's egg doesn't make an American, regardless of who the woman was.

I’m not even sure what you’re getting at if someone who,

  • Was born in America,

  • Is descended from an American,

  • Speaks English with an American accent,

  • Sports American fashion trends, and

  • Represents Team USA on the international stage,

isn’t American?

In what way is she descended from an American? We don't know who the mother is.

As for how, it's easy. American is defined in the Preamble of the Constitution: ourselves and our posterity. She's not among them.

By that metric neither are the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, or the Poles. Somewhere between 50 and 70% of people in the United States are not American according to you, including the current president and a substantial proportion of American war dead. Are you willing to bite that bullet?

Of course. Anyone whose family has been in this country for a hundred years or more and hasn't intermarried is very clearly separate by choice.

If the Irish want to be considered American, they should try marrying Americans instead of Irish. The same can be said for the Italians.

The Germans at least got somewhat integrated, forecefully.

Please, feed me more bullets, I will spit more shrapnel. Everything said about the Irish and the Italians a hundred years ago is true, and doubly applicable today, when the foreign-born population has once against surpassed 3 in 20, and those foreigners are not just different culturally and religiously, but genetically completely different.

So when was the first American born? Did fighting in the revolution give you automatic American status? Were all state citizens in good standing grandfathered in at the ratification?

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By that logic, neither is Trump.

Yes, that's right. Trump is half german, half scots. He has 1/2 parents born in America, 0/4 in American grandparents, and 0/8 American Great-grandparents. His grandfather even went back to Germany to get a German wife, not unlike the Chinese Gary Locke's father. If you have to go back to your homeland for a wife, your homeland isn't America.

If you don't have a single American grandparent, I don't see how you can consider yourself an American, and I do not mean a scrap of paper or a passport. That applies to my own family, too, but my foreign forefathers had the good sense to marry in (although it was exclusively foreign women marrying American men).

Just because I'm curious about your worldview, how would you rate my "American-ness"? I have a Scots-Irish Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandpa (and their son) who immigrated to the US in the 1820s or so. But on my mom's side, I have a ton of French Canadian blood that mostly immigrated to the US about 100 years ago.

Bonus points, my Great-Great-Great-Great-Great aunt was one of Joseph Smith's wives, but somehow I managed to not have any polygamists in my direct lineage despite them all being early converts.

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