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You know you've been spending too much time on the internet when your reaction to your hypothetical wife asking 'how was your day?' is 'Don't you manipulate me she-devil! You just want my money!'
If she's a housewife, she doesn't just want your money, she needs it. Wanting a housewife and wanting a woman who isn't excessively interested in your earning potential would, in a sane world, be incompatible.
Yeah A bunch of redpill/internet manosophere types are really incoherent about this. A bunch of them look down on career women and say stuff like men provide resources women provide beauty. But then they get mad or at least annoyed about women considering those resources, and then they constantly worry about "divorce rape" and a woman taking half your shit or even women in general taking half the shit of hardworking men. And they never consider deliberately dating a woman with a career or gasp one who even makes more then them to allay these worries. It just feels like a ball of physchosexual anxieties when what they should do is have a sober analysis about whether to go for a women who wants to stay home or have a career.
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No, many years ago I turned to the internet to understand why the consequences of honestly answering were so disastrous. I found the answers convincing.
Dude in all my relationships I've never had disastrous consequences for answering this question. But I was also just giving a basic answer. I suspect some of your problem in how you were answering are you way over explaining and laying out every neurotic insecurity. Or as others have said it's the type of woman you are choosing. Either way the fact that everyone is disagreeing with you should indicate it's a you problem.
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Really? Which part of the internet told you to never tell your wife how your day was (or conversely, so get a woman who doesn't care)?
I can kind of see it in the same vein as "women think they want an emotionally-sensitive man until they actually have one," or the kind of messaging that led Scott to write both Untitled and Reverse Any Advice.
You should be honest with your wife, of course, and a wife that cares about your day is a blessing! But one should be aware that there's probably a limit to that.
I find my job dissatisfying but stable and hard to escape, I figured out where my wife's limit is on me bitching about it, so it didn't take too long to get to an agreement with "ssdd" and I'll reserve elaboration for when I really need to.
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/r/theredpill, /r/purplepilldebate, and the tale of Henry of the Radicalizing the Romanceless fame.
I think one problem with relying on TRP for advice about women is that the community is subject to evaporative cooling. Any guys who end up happily married or in relationships aren't gonna stick around, so you're stuck in an echo chamber or men who have failed to coexist happily with the opposite sex.
The second is that intelligence isn't merely reversed stupidity. The Red Pill guys might be right that the mainstream is lying to you about women and relationships, but that doesn't mean they have good advice on how to exist in the world they describe. As someone said the other day on here, they have a correct description but an incorrect prescription. That's why they're so unhappy.
Surely it would make sense to take advice from the men who have succeeded, i.e. the happily married ones?
I can't see when the sub was created, but the years I'm talking about were near its beginnings.
I believe a man that his marriage is happy as much as I believe a hostage saying that his captors treat him excellently.
Is it conceivable that evidence could convince you otherwise, or is this belief axiomatic?
It is conceivable, and deep inside I would even relish it, but in a Bayesian fashion it would need to be so overwhelmingly adhering to my ideal, with my knowledge so voyeuristically comprehensive, that it's frankly unrealistic.
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Why? Both men and women who are married report being happier than those who are unmarried. If the men are lying, are the women lying too? And if so, why the hell are they choosing to couple up and marry if it's making both sexes miserable?
If a vampire and a thrall both report being happier in this arrangement, are both lying? Why are they choosing this?
There seems to be a general pattern on the internet of miserable people convinced that everyone else is miserable in the same way they are, and some might just not be aware of it yet (and it is imperative to convince those people that they in fact are). Seen e.g. with transsexualism, mental illnesses, every variant of bad relationships and digestive disorders. Misery loves company.
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First off, I think it helps to understand the data Crowstep is relying on. I'm pretty sure whatever poll or set of polls he is thinking of is not asking the question "are you happier married?" Rather, it is asking the question "are you happy/how happy are you?" It is aggregate numbers that show that married men are happy, but of course it's on a curve, so some married men do report being unhappy, they are just less likely to than unmarried men.
Secondly, I can imagine that a vampire might be able to read the mind of a thrall to figure out how it responded on polling questions. The idea that wives have similar abilities is funny and I don't discount that some men (or women) might lie on survey data to please their significant other, but I don't see a strong reason to think it would be so systemic as to change the overall balance.
Finally, there's also some research data showing that married men live longer. Since happiness also seems to be linked to health, it would be odd if marriage made men profoundly unhappy but also prolonged their lives. Unless we're thinking that women are close-to-literally vampires which prolong the lives of their thralls, which is very funny but I don't find it convincing.
(Apologies to @Crowstep if I am stepping on his reply, and I am open to correction if he was thinking of a different set of polling entirely.)
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