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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 30, 2026

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It isn’t nitpicking to figure out what the words “subject to the jurisdiction” means.

Clearly there is a limitation (otherwise no need to insert the phrase). The real question is how far do you read that limitation.

It isn’t nitpicking to figure out what the words “subject to the jurisdiction” means.

The reality is that neither side has a good answer to this. A plain meaning of the phrase would mean anyone who US law applies to. However, that can't be correct because we know there are two groups that it never applied to until statutes were written: AmerIndians, and Diplomats and their kin.

BUT, AmerIndians and Diplomats and their kin have been consistently prosecuted for crimes, brought into courts on civil actions, etc going back to the founding. If a diplomat commits a serious crime on US soil, they are almost always prosecuted, and the visiting nation basically always waives immunity. Same was true for AmerIndians committing crimes, but states wouldn't even bother to talk to the Tribe in question. If you were a drunk Indian that killed an American you were just tried and hanged quite quickly.

So the so called "plain reading" regarding whether American laws apply to you is just a straight out red herring. Its wrong, very wrong.

So PROBABLY something along the loyalty questions that have been often remarked on in some cases in the 1800s is what it actually means. The real problem with those is that its mostly subjective question of someone's mind, and probably should have gone the other way in Wong Kim Arc if it really is about loyalty. They were still Chinese citizens, not American citizens at the time. What side of the war would an illegal immigrant or tourist pick in a war between America and Mexico/China/Etc. The real answer for most of them is the side they think is going to win. National loyalty is not a quick thing to develop, it takes generations of being in the same place and cultivating ties to the community. If we applied a loyalty test many 5th generation people would not pass. Heck, nowadays many descendants of founding fathers prefer enemy countries to prevail against the US.

I agree that it is complex. Plain reading is also dangerous when 150ish years removed (ie what was it understood to mean in the late 1800s).

My response isn’t to say “it is obvious.” My response is to say it isn’t obvious and it isn’t nitpicking.

The other poster tried to compare Roe (a case about unenumerated right that seemingly wasn’t recognized anywhere before) and this one is about untangling a challenging phrase. They just aren’t the same.