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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 13, 2026

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Did all the talent going to Canada somehow make it catch up to America, or did the opposite happen?

If you actually disagree with what I posted specifically, please articulate it better instead of posting sarcastic snark so I don't have guess what you mean. But from what I can infer, I reject your premise because it's unrelated to what I was arguing.

  • The vast majority of the indian immigrant influx to Canada during the early 2020s went in on study permits and not an H-1B analog that's a lot more rigorous
  • The US didn't curb skilled immigration during that time, so at best they were getting second-rate talent even if they had rigorous screening

You could say the question was rhetorical (because I already know the answer to it), but in no way is it sarcastic. It means exactly what it's straightforward, literal interpretation would imply.

I disagree with your claim, because I think it reverses causality. America isn't great because of all the skilled immigrants, skilled immigrants want to go there, because it gives them better opportunities than they have in other places.

The vast majority of the indian immigrant influx to Canada during the early 2020s went in on study permits and not an H-1B analog that's a lot more rigorous

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't have the impression that H-1B is particularly rigorous, and I've seen Canadians swear up and down that their system is more restrictive.

The US didn't curb skilled immigration during that time, so at best they were getting second-rate talent even if they had rigorous screening

Even if this is true, there's a few implications to it. One is that no one should even try to compete for immigrants, because they're all going to go to the top country anyway, and then ones you will get, will only cause economic stagnation. Another is that even for America this would probably mean mass deportations are a good idea, as you can just keep the absolute best performence, and get rid of everyone else.

However devoid of rigor you think the H-1B selection process was, the Canadian immigration system in the past decade was even more so. At least for H-1B, new approvals are capped at 85k max a year, and you need to have a job for which the median salary is over six figures. For Canada, it was infamously relaxed enough to let in millions of Indian students with nothing but an offer letter to a school.

Even if this is true, there's a few implications to it. One is that no one should even try to compete for immigrants, because they're all going to go to the top country anyway, and then ones you will get, will only cause economic stagnation. Another is that even for America this would probably mean mass deportations are a good idea, as you can just keep the absolute best performence, and get rid of everyone else.

I never said we needed to compete for immigrants -- just to let the talented and skilled ones in. I don't see evidence that skilled immigration causes economic stagnation. There are many immigrants or second generation immigrants here that contributed a lot to our economy. I already think it's a good idea to deport illegals, and economic immigrants who no longer meet the bar. H-1B already has a provision for this. If you are no longer employed at a job that sponsors the H-1B, you're gone.

You could say the question was rhetorical (because I already know the answer to it), but in no way is it sarcastic. It means exactly what it's straightforward, literal interpretation would imply.

So when you described the influx of millions of Indians to Canada as "talented", you were being earnest and not mocking? That's not a word that I would have used to describe them and I would not count them as skilled immigrants. If you were being earnest then I would like you to substantiate your "opposite" claim -- that the Canadian global competitive edge decreased because of the greater immigration, not that it merely didn't increase because of it.