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Every time I venture forth from themotte, I am immediately punched with the reality of just how terrible the norms are in other locations.
Yes, the motte lets people argue that <ethnic group> is inherently negative, or that the usa should just do away with elections. But every other place either has no users or worse norms.
Some of them even have both!
This is what I was trying to get at with @ArjinFerman. The modal Internet community is profoundly disinterested in things like “freedom of speech” or “reasoned debate.” It can be expected to make everything as comfortable as possible for its users. Or it loses out to a more filtered, more flattering space.
If that userbase is remotely young, affluent, and left-leaning, the filter will reinforce those traits.
In theory I don't mind the concept of a left themotte that prunes ethnostatists or dark hinters or whatever.
But of the few spaces that try, bar none, they're all colonized by left-coded therapyspeakists and similar brain-melting mindworms. Ethnostatism in those spaces that claim to ban it tend to have a backdoor if you act like a traumatized victim.
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Before my Reddit account had been banned years ago I sometimes would drop in on occasion and debate in PPD and I swear, none of the mods knew what a “debate” actually was, as they intrinsically produce friction and stir up tense conflict between competing ideas.
One of them in particular was so nitpicky and selective as well as thin skinned, on one occasion I’d had enough and just choose to roast and antagonize the shit out of her and give her a taste of her own medicine. If you were too lighthearted and cavalier she’d say “Don’t troll,” and would accuse you of being insincere. If you were too pointed and logical she’d say “Be civil,” and would accuse you of being aggressive. And she’d do this to everybody she disagreed with. On this particular day she threw her hat into the ring and tried engaging my argument so I replied back to her “Don’t troll.” And then a bunch of us started attacking her as a shit moderator and we would up getting permabanned.
Turned out like 6 months later, there was so much protest from people she’d been removed as a mod and to my knowledge nobody had seen her since. I rarely spend that much time online though. Good riddance either way.
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