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Grant_us_eyes brought up the case in another comment where a 16 year old female babysitter had sex and was impregnated by the 12 year old boy she was watching. The boy was ordered to pay child support. link

Yes the justification was the well-being of the child. I have no idea how a judge said that with a straight face as he ordered a child to pay child support. And to specifically pay it to a mother that is a convicted pedophile rapist of a child that was under her care. I hope the newly born child in this situation was a girl, otherwise he will probably be having a sibling/child in another 13 years, and then he will have to get a job at 14 to pay child support to his mother. Insanity.


(Contrary to many arguments, a ban on unilateral paternity testing even in alimony/child support proceedings protects intact families too, because not having it would incentivise doubting men to divorce so they could get the test.)

What about the incentives created by forcing doubting fathers to raise kids that aren't theirs or pay their wages to a woman who tricked them? If there are multiple kids in a family and just one is in doubt then guess who that father likes the least? I'm sure that kid is not having a pleasant time even if the parents stay together.

If you were married to a woman that cheated on you and then had to pay money to that woman and that child? I cannot imagine how infuriated I would be. I'd probably be willing to destroy my own life to spite them. Live poor for 18 years, leave the country to get out of payments, etc etc. I'm also not a violent person, but its not hard to imagine what choices a violent man might make in that situation.

Maybe it works because the type of man that can be actually cucked heavily overlaps with the type of man that can be cucked by the justice system.


I'll admit the traffic light example is a little polemic, but I don't think it takes very much wrangling to become more accurate.

Imagine a business is being stolen from by one employee. The theft is large enough that the business will go bankrupt unless the money is returned, which is bad for all of the employees, the owner, and their customers. We would not think it is ok to just confiscate the savings of one of the employees to pay for the theft.

Is a business just not that sympathetic? I can make it more sympathetic. Its not a business its a non-profit. They make pacemakers for people that can't afford them especially children. If the non-profit goes under people will die, children will die. Can we take money from a random employee? What if its not random, can we pick the ugliest man with the biggest bank account and no family? At what point in this hypothetical does it become ok? For me the answer is never. (which is the same answer I have to Robert Nozick's The Tale of a Slave)

What about the incentives created by forcing doubting fathers to raise kids that aren't theirs or pay their wages to a woman who tricked them? If there are multiple kids in a family and just one is in doubt then guess who that father likes the least? I'm sure that kid is not having a pleasant time even if the parents stay together.

Unfortunately, under the old ideal of the family (the mother runs the house, the father slaves away at a day job and maybe is home on the weekends every now and then to give some words of stern admonition to the kids), the incentives there don't matter so much. The father's role is to provide resources, and exist as an abstract sort of role model and stabilising force.

I don't have access to stats, but I would assume that out of all the "cucked" men in the world (who are stuck with a less than certainly affair-produced child in a marriage), a bigger fraction continues more or less playing out the above role than actually resorts to violence or spiteful self-sabotage. To begin with, I would think that the woman actually having an affair when the couple is trying to conceive correlates pretty well with such a family model, because otherwise the woman simply would not have enough opportunity to cultivate one. If my partner managed to get an affair baby, my first reaction would be "when the f did she manage to sneak that in"; outside of work we are basically together all the time and we are pretty well-aware of each other's social calendars too.

business example

I think this once again misses the circumstance that the cucked husband is not some random bloke grabbed off the street. You seem to want to pick a random employee, or the ugliest one, or whatever, but why are you so resistent to picking the most obvious default-responsible one, which is the CEO? If you made the example say that some employee embezzled money from an LLC, but the state refused to investigate and just put the CEO on the hook for it, we would be getting closer to the marriage situation.

I have no idea how a judge said that with a straight face as he ordered a child to pay child support

I get that this is rhetorical, but here's the actual answer:

He ordered a man to pay child support.
A man is not a child, and being male takes precedence; furthermore, men can't be raped (their age of consent is 0- no Woman would ever actively want to fuck a man so this doesn't create any downstream problems, especially the most objectively attractive kind of Woman, that being a 16 year old one). The male gender role is to do the fucking, so this was Consensual, thus forcing him to take Responsibility makes trivial sense.

The only reason we pretend men can be raped is just basic gender equality, but that's just a fig leaf: they get the title but none of the protections that being a victim of the same grants Women. If we could get away with it, we would set the age of consent for Women to be infinite, even within the confines of a marriage (because otherwise, a Woman couldn't have Her husband thrown in jail if he displeased Her by retroactively revoking consent -> claiming marital rape, as all sex with Women is illegal).

TL;DR It was base human instinct.