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You misunderstand. It's not that I weigh evidence by number of wives. It's that if you don't have a wife and kids you literally have no idea what you are talking about on this topic.
None of these are broken out by married/not married/children/no children. You're way overextending the evidence to look at depression rates among Amish vs genpop and claim this is due to kids relaxing women. That's simply not what the study says.
We're going in circles. As I said:
Which basically puts to rest "women are relaxed by children". If they're relaxed by children, why is there no meaningful change in psychosocial hassles versus married no children?
6+ pregnancies does not mean 6+ children.
The hassle differences exist for all groups. Has nothing do to with kids.
But nothing you’ve posted indicates that you really know anything about this. You don’t mention any studies. You don’t reference anything. You misunderstood the study I quoted.
If we’re comparing one set with a huge amount of married women with children, to another set with a far smaller amount, then we done have to break it down further. The set that maximizes SAHM is extremely happier. If you have better evidence you should post it. Reasonable people work with the evidence they have. You’re criticizing the best study for its imperfection without presenting better evidence.
Happy to see a counter-study
Except, of course, the fact that I know what it's like to raise children, and you don't even have a wife, let alone a child. The life experience gap is massive, and you can't know what you are missing from your side of it.
The evidence you show is that having kids makes little difference to psychosocial hassles for married women, both genpop and Amish. All the benefits are due to being Amish vs being genpop - nothing to do with kids. Even unmarried women have fewer hassles if they are Amish. This is literally what your study says.
Again, why is there no benefit to psychosocial hassles from having kids if kids relax women? why is the only measure that breaks out women by marital and childbearing status show zero effect on the parameter you think is important? This is basically enough to dismiss your claims out of hand.
I will side with the 200+ wives
reduces within cohorts + significant differences between cohorts
A SAHM culture. Younger unmarried Amish statistically likely to be around kids all day btw
Married & kids Amish have fewer hassles than unmarried. When number go up it mean hassle go up
Hassle one metric. Not best metric. Other metrics for between pops. Metric still evidence. Shows having kids reduce hassle in both pops and between pops. Lower for married w kids. 48 = max stress. 12 = absolutely no stress.
Seems clear that you aren't reading my responses so this will be the last one.
No, there's basically zero difference in hassles for married with/without children in each group. The difference in means is tiny compared to the SDs. Differences between Amish and genpop exist for all categories of women.
Meaningless. Married genpop have fewer hassles than single married.
No other metrics besides hassle break out the effect of kids. If you don't like it, please find a better source rather than pretend that it shows something it doesn't.
Better yet - find a wife, have a kid, and let me know how relaxing it turns out to be. I might as well be arguing with an LLM for all the life experience you have in this department. At least the LLM has read more than one study.
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