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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 25, 2026

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Quite a lot of people who casually talk about wanting someone in prison clearly want the prisoner-to-be to suffer. I don't think the precise difference in sadism matters.

Nearly everyone knows prison sucks, many perceive that prison is more cruel and arbitrary in practice than intended by the law (the old "don't drop the soap in the shower", etc). They still want their enemies in prison, often gleefully emphasizing the cruel and arbitrary parts.

On the other hand, the attitude to corporal punishment as something that might seem cruel but actually done out of necessity and desire to reform is as old as time. "Spare the rod and spoil the child".

"Seems cruel but is done out of necessity" is usually used as a rationalization for wanting to be cruel to someone where it is socially unacceptable to admit directly.

Compare "I don't hate the sinner, I just hate the sin" (as a rationalization for hating the sinner).

Sure.

Would you believe me if I told you I consider it more cruel to lock someone up for five years than receive ten rattan strikes?

If you were coming at it from a negative point of view (they are cruel so I should avoid them) I'd believe you are sincere. If you were coming at it from a positive point of view (we should hurt criminals and prison hurts them more) I'd say that you are not acting like most humans who wish to punish.

We should hurt criminals in a way that averses them from criminality while minimizing crippling consequences. If we destroy criminals they become a burden on society and quite possibly recidivists. You can avoid that by jailing for life/execution/exile but you can't reasonably apply the capital punishment to every crime.

I don't think most humans who wish to punish are usually satisfied with a criminal receiving a single session of caning and walking free. Usually people want the criminal to "rot in prison", to use a common expression.

If you offered me both, I know I'd chose the rattan strikes, easily. I don't know how low the time in jail and high the amount of strikes would have to be for me to, not knowing precisely how painful the strikes are, prefer the opposite, but in my ignorance I would at least exchange up to 20 strikes for a year.