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This is one of those things where if I had very little experience with children I might find a way to be outraged, but now that I've spent some time around them, have a sister with a couple, good friends with some and have gotten teasingly close to having my own I just have to imagine "is vibe camp somewhere I'd take young children unless I was totally bought in and willing to handle explaining nudity to them?" and the answer is probably no. But even if vibe camp was in my local area I probably wouldn't bother to go most years anyways. Who are all these parents taking their kids to vibe camp and having bad experiences? Who are you offended on behalf of?
isn't it also quite expensive to attend? or does it only look expensive to us lowly peons in the real world and not to folx with more money than brains?
It is very expensive, cheapest tickets are like $450 which is as much as bonaroo or more. The main reason I didn’t go back this year, paying almost $500 to sleep in a tent isn’t feasible for me at the moment.
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looks like it's in the $600 range for a weekend with a cabin, definitely not trivial but basically in line with if not slightly cheaper than other destination festivals. cheaper than just tickets to lollapalooza in comparison which will run you $750 for the 4 day pass.
True but the big difference imo is that the event itself doesn’t hire bands or events. Pretty much all the events are organized and run by the attendees.
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I admittedly don't have kids and don't have a TON of experience around them.
That being said, this just seems like extremely risky behavior for little to no gain. As @cjet79 said, there are massive legal risks for doing this sort of thing, not to mention the actual risk of exposure to kids, etc. Basically it's spending a ton of weirdness points in a way I don't think need to be spent.
Personally I'd rather just see them bar kids from the event, which is what most events I've been to like this do.
They might not so much be concerned about the kids as about the parents who would not attend if they couldn't bring theirs. This is a general concern with long-standing communities - at some point some members will become parents, and you either have to find a way to take kids along to whatever the main community activities are, or exclude the parents, which will firstly reduce the community and secondly become another incentive for the remaining members to never have kids.
(Personally, in fact, I find the continuing proliferation of activities that moral busybodies won't let you do anymore if you have kids to be among the most impactful points on the antinatalist side.)
I'm pretty sure we had a higher fertility rate back when drug fueled sex orgies in a tent were somewhat taboo even for the childless.
On the other hand, back then you could just leave your 12 year olds at home to discreetly go to a drug fueled sex orgy by yourself over the weekend. Nobody needed to know, and CPS would not be called.
Yeah, fair enough, some countries got carried away with that stuff.
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