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So, do you have a daughter?
A romantic relationship involves two individuals, not families.
Haven't you read Romeo and Juliet? That idea is deadly.
So no daughter after all?
Excellent example - Romeo and Juliet turned out deadly because of the meddling of the families. Two consenting adults getting married would be a non-issue if those honor culture goons hadn't been obsessed with their blood feud to the detriment of everything else.
No they turned out deadly because they went behind the families' backs.
13 year old Juliet is a consenting adult to you? I guess I took you for more of a normie. Nevermind then.
This is like someone punching you in the face and saying you made them do it because you called them a mean name.
She isn't, which is why she shouldn't have been allowed to marry and her family shouldn't have been plotting a marriage for her.
The "deadly" situation in the play is a mixture of tribal honor culture and child marriage which results in terrible outcomes everywhere it's tried (see e.g. the Arab world). It's a total nonsequitur to pretend that this is an argument against limiting marriage to consenting adults.
This is the best solution to childhood bullies actually.
Nice try, but you said she was.
Are you so racist that you think their above replacement TFR is a terrible outcome?
In that case you shouldn't be surprised when people tell you that you can't have sex with underage girls and they'll put you in prison if you try. After all, it will be your fault!
Hardly. I said two consenting adults getting married should not be an issue, and 13 is obviously not an adult. Not that the events of the play would have been any different had she been 23 or even 33 of course, her age is not why people are upset.
To the extent that the Arab world has an above replacement TFR, it's mostly thanks to shithole countries like Somalia and Sudan. Once they reach even moderate levels of development (e.g. Morocco, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia) they no longer have above replacement TFR.
What some societies do to 25 year olds that have a 17 year old girlfriend is like a bully killing his victim, not a victim punching his bully. It's like your side has no sense of scale. It's illogic, barbarity, and ignorant understanding of how human romance actually works all the way down.
Societies with teen marriage do not generally have unchaperoned dating. They are still very hard on unmarried, especially girls who sought out sex with (anyone), and some are also hard on the men, or else offer them an opportunity to marry the girl. Does France allow a 17 year old and a 25 year old to date? Maybe they do. Google says that 33 states allow 17 year olds to marry, but some limit the age gap.
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Well, that's because they go
behind the families' backsbehind society's back!Really? Because fucking 17 year olds has not been the norm in western Europe basically ever.
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